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A Few Words About A few words about...™ Bend of the River - in Blu-ray

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Robert Harris, Apr 3, 2019.

  1. Message #1 of 98 Apr 3, 2019
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    Robert Harris

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    Kino's new Blu-ray of Anthony Mann's 1952, 3-strip Technicolor, Bend of the River, takes on a bit of a beauty and the beast affair, when compared to Becky Sharp.

    Presumably produced from a master delivered by Universal that may have been made for the DVD market, the film almost appears to have been shot in 3-D.

    Universal has been doing such brilliant work the past few years, that it pains me to see an old master making its way to Blu-ray.

    Registration errors abound, and the entire film has the appearance of having be recombined by some fly-by-night outfit.

    On a large screen, it borders on being unwatchable.

    The pity is that this is a good film. Not a great one, mind you, but a good one, deserving of better treatment.

    Image - 2

    Audio - 5

    Pass / Fail - Fail

    Upgrade from DVD - Absolutely not

    RAH

     
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  2. Peter Apruzzese

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    Ouch.
     
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    That is so disappointing to read - I was hoping that we might finally be getting a decent release for this classic. Just have to stick with the dvd until further notice

    Regards
     
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  4. Robert Crawford

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    From RAH's comments, I gather this is exactly the same transfer used in the 2017 German Blu-ray that plays on Region "A" players. I thought that Blu-ray looked mediocre, but watchable on my 65" OLED.
     
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    This might be it, but you never know.
     
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    I bought the German Blu-ray as I finally wanted another Tony Mann western on Blu and I will say that while detail is improved the added detail makes the registration errors rather more obvious.

    I agree with Robert that the German disc is still somehow watchable but mostly because the DVD is even worse (I have that one, too and made a few comparisons after watching the Blu-ray)

    Certainly this fine western deserves better but apparently nobody wants to pay for the necessary work.
     
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    It sounds like the same old transfer that been on UK TV quite a bit in the past few years (& the same as the German release), it looked okay(ish) on a smaller screen, but I suppose on a larger screen these faults are exaggerated (& of course after a while, you're looking for them). A great fifties western, it really needs the Universal Deluxe treatment.
     
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    That's disappointing. I hoped the Mann westerns would get the deluxe treatment. Love this film.
     
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    I have the German one and it does indeed look like 3d without the glasses. It starts abruptly too, they managed to miss the opening notes of the music. Got it cheap, but still very disappointing.
     
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    No Mannah from Heaven on this one; just a plain old "Man, oh, Mann".
    Talk about putting in for a transfer.:(
     
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    I requested this title for review; I now have some idea what to look for, but I'm holding off any and all judgment until I see it for myself.
     
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    Wow. That's the worst review I can recall for a while.
     
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    Extremely disappointing, but hey - Uni hasn't exactly been leading the pack in quality for some time. The Glenn Miller Story from Shout! is a travesty, as was For Whom The Bell Tolls. No point to releasing mis-aligned Technicolor in 2K to Blu. It isn't watchable. Thanks for the heads up, Robert. Will definitely pass.
     
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    I'm disappointed and annoyed, but not especially surprised. Universal is so hit and miss with their HD transfers that you never know what to expect from them.
     
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    Well, I just cancelled my pre-order. Too bad the transfer was so disappointing.
     
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    Darn guess I will stick with my dvd for now.
     
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    Yep, just cancelled my pre-order also. Made sure I still had my DVD. Have been passing on my old DVDs to relatives when I upgrade. Good thing I waited on this one.
     
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    Robert Crawford

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    Keeping the DVD is fine, but it looks much worse than the Blu-ray. I suspect Kino is going to have a sale at some point in which you might be able to pick it up much cheaper at around $10 or so. The following are my comments about the German Blu-ray.

    https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/posts/4651271/
     
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    I concur with Robert's thoughts on the German disc.
     
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    Still buying it as I don't have the German release and Kino does have a commentary. Anthony Mann and blu-ray need to be supported, in my opinion!
     
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