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Received my copy at home today of this from Amazon...will be giving it a spin this weekend...so excited to have this in my library at last!!! Thanks for the rave review, Robert...
Damn. The Big Chill and Broadcast News, too. Could've saved some serious bucks.Felix Martinez said:
trajan said:Just a thought-- Does anyone else think that the revision number towards to beginning goes on way too long. Also-I think there is too much footage from the film he is making. Otherwise I love this film.
Its the number with the half naked performers dancing while Fosse shines a flashlight on them. I think the number went on too long.Martin_Teller said:"Revision number"?
Overkill how?trajan said:Its the number with the half naked performers dancing while Fosse shines a flashlight on them. I think that number was overkill.
I just ordered mine for $24.45!Tom Logan said:This will be remedied as soon as the blu-ray arrives (24% off today at Amazon, btw.)
He's speaking of the "Airotica" number.trajan said:Its the number with the half naked performers dancing while Fosse shines a flashlight on them. I think that number was overkill.
Here's hoping for us internationals that Amazon starts stocking this title itself .. its third-party seller in this instance won't ship overseas!Will Krupp said:I just order
I just ordered mine for $24.45!
Yeah, everytime i read about a Criterion sale i get jealous as i cannot take advantage of it.AnthonyClarke said:Here's hoping for us internationals that Amazon starts stocking this title itself .. its third-party seller in this instance won't ship overseas!
While he may have indeed shot the musical numbers over many days, unlike today's brainiacs who haven't a clue how to shoot anything let alone a musical number, he designed the dances for the frame, every shot. Yes, he gave the editor lots of choices, but it wasn't arbitrary footage. Today (I won't name names) they set up twelve cameras and shoot the numbers and make it in the editing, with the number being all ABOUT the fast cutting. Think Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly set up twelve cameras and handed it over to an editor?Hollywoodaholic said:The Fosse interviews included (Tomorrow show, South Bank show, etc.) really do convey an amazingly congenial and likeable guy. Very self-effacing. Course he could have been Mr. Hyde on the proscenium.
Also, watching this film again in a great print, I am reminded there's not really much of a story, but the genius of the film is in the choreography of images and the editing. It's no wonder that's the big Oscar it won. It's also no wonder the film took so long to finish once it was already shot. If he had today's editing technology, his studio probably would have been a lot happier with the time schedule. But you see that he shot these dance numbers FOR DAYS ON END, and then had a ridiculous amount of material for the editor to choose from. But the cutting is just a marvel to behold. But there really is no story other than a very entertaining meditation on work, passion and death.
Felix Martinez said:
Oh go on, you know you want to.haineshisway said:Today (I won't name names) they set up twelve cameras and shoot the numbers and make it in the editing, with the number being all ABOUT the fast cutting.
I get what you're saying. In the extras you see how he was very meticulous about how to shoot the dance sequences a certain way avoiding any traditional just shoot the proscenium master, and it also wasn't just about getting coverage.haineshisway said:While he may have indeed shot the musical numbers over many days, unlike today's brainiacs who haven't a clue how to shoot anything let alone a musical number, he designed the dances for the frame, every shot. Yes, he gave the editor lots of choices, but it wasn't arbitrary footage. Today (I won't name names) they set up twelve cameras and shoot the numbers and make it in the editing, with the number being all ABOUT the fast cutting. Think Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly set up twelve cameras and handed it over to an editor?
Ah, "Airotica"... I've never heard anyone refer to it as "the revision number" before, but I can see why you would.trajan said:Its the number with the half naked performers dancing while Fosse shines a flashlight on them. I think the number went on too long.
I agree that musicals are poorly edited these days. The chaotic rhythm that Richard Lester used for the musical numbers in A FUNNY THING HAPPENED TO ME...have now become standard. You rarely get to view choreography played out in a just a few shots, as was the way musicals used to be edited. Watching Astaire and Kelly and Charise and all of those wonderful MGM performers dance in shots composed for head-to-toe coverage and very few cuts allowed us to witness the full craft of these amazing talents. Now, thanks to Baz Luhrmann and his ilk, we are lucky if we get to see ten seconds of a number before there is a quick edit, from faces to thighs to midriffs to feet to ass to breast, etc. This creates a kinetic sort of rhythm that young audiences might think is cool and contemporary, but where are the full-length legs? That's where the dancing action is!haineshisway said:While he may have indeed shot the musical numbers over many days, unlike today's brainiacs who haven't a clue how to shoot anything let alone a musical number, he designed the dances for the frame, every shot. Yes, he gave the editor lots of choices, but it wasn't arbitrary footage. Today (I won't name names) they set up twelve cameras and shoot the numbers and make it in the editing, with the number being all ABOUT the fast cutting. Think Stanley Donen and Gene Kelly set up twelve cameras and handed it over to an editor?