I just picked up the Denon 4802 from the local SoundTrack store for $2000. They had it listed on the shelf for $2499 while they were trying to phase out the old 4800s for $1699. I really wanted the 4802 and had a printout of some places on the internet where I could get it for around $1800 delivered. The salesman gave me the standard lecture about authorized dealers and warranties and said the best they could do is 10% off which would make it $2250. While the salesman went off to do something else, I sat down with my internet listing and wrote on it my name, SoundTrack credit card number (I had bought my widescreen rptv there 7 months ago), my phone number and $2000 + tax = $2120. I figured I would give it to the salesman and tell him to call me if he could give me a better price. On the way to see the salesman, the manager came up and asked me if he could help me. I showed him the paper and told him (and here is the part I like) that I would, "Walk out of here today with it if he could give me a good price." So he went to his computer, punched up my account, made a phone call, and said "ok, we can do it." And to make the deal even sweeter, he put the purchase amount on my card at no interest for 12 months. I figure the interest I saved will go a long way to making up the difference in price between them and the internet. So... did I do good?