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69th (2017) Primetime Emmy Awards

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    Adam Lenhardt

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    The awards will be presented at the Microsoft Theater in downtown Los Angeles on Sunday, September 17. CBS will broadcast live.

    This year's nominations:
    OUTSTANDING DRAMA (The 2016 winner, Game of Thrones, was ineligible this year)
    Better Call Saul
    The Crown
    The Handmaid’s Tale
    House of Cards
    Stranger Things
    This Is Us
    Westworld


    LEAD ACTOR IN A DRAMA
    Sterling K. Brown, This Is Us
    Anthony Hopkins, Westworld
    Bob Odenkirk, Better Call Saul
    Matthew Rhys, The Americans
    Liev Schreiber, Ray Donovan
    Kevin Spacey, House of Cards
    Milo Ventimiglia, This Is Us

    LEAD ACTRESS IN A DRAMA (The 2016 winner, Tatiana Maslany, was ineligible this year)
    Viola Davis, How To Get Away With Murder
    Claire Foy, The Crown
    Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
    Keri Russell, The Americans
    Evan Rachel Wood, Westworld
    Robin Wright, House of Cards

    SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A DRAMA (The 2016 winner, Maggie Smith, was ineligible this year)
    Ann Dowd, The Handmaid’s Tale
    Samira Wiley, The Handmaid’s Tale
    Uzo Aduba, Orange Is The New Black
    Millie Bobby Brown, Stranger Things
    Chrissy Metz, This Is Us
    Thandie Newton, Westworld

    SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A DRAMA (The 2016 winner, Ben Mendelsohn, was nominated in the Guest Actor category this year since he was no longer a series regular)
    Jonathan Banks, Better Call Saul
    John Lithgow, The Crown
    Mandy Patinkin, Homeland
    Michael Kelly, House of Cards
    David Harbour, Stranger Things
    Ron Cephas Jones, This Is Us
    Jeffrey Wright, Westworld

    GUEST ACTRESS IN A DRAMA
    Alison Wright, The Americans
    Alexis Bledel, The Handmaid’s Tale
    Cicely Tyson, How to Get Away With Murder
    Ann Dowd, The Leftovers
    Laverne Cox, Orange Is The New Black
    Shannon Purser, Stranger Things

    GUEST ACTOR IN A DRAMA
    Ben Mendelsohn, Bloodline
    BD Wong, Mr. Robot
    Hank Azaria, Ray Donovan
    Denis O’Hare, This Is Us
    Brian Tyree Henry, This Is Us
    Gerald McRaney, This Is Us

    OUTSTANDING COMEDY
    Atlanta
    black-ish
    Master of None
    Modern Family
    Silicon Valley
    Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt
    Veep


    LEAD ACTRESS IN A COMEDY
    Pamela Adlon, Better Things
    Jane Fonda, Grace & Frankie
    Allison Janney, Mom
    Ellie Kemper, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt
    Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Veep
    Tracee Ellis Ross, black-ish
    Lily Tomlin, Grace & Frankie

    LEAD ACTOR IN A COMEDY
    Anthony Anderson, black-ish
    Aziz Ansari, Master of None
    Zach Galifianakis, Baskets
    Donald Glover, Atlanta
    William H. Macy, Shameless
    Jeffrey Tambor, Transparent

    SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A COMEDY
    Leslie Jones, Saturday Night Live
    Kate McKinnon, Saturday Night Live
    Vanessa Bayer, Saturday Night Live
    Kathryn Hahn, Transparent
    Judith Light, Transparent
    Anna Chlumsky, Veep

    SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A COMEDY
    Louie Anderson, Baskets
    Ty Burrell, Modern Family
    Alec Baldwin, Saturday Night Live
    Tituss Burgess, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt
    Tony Hale, Veep
    Matt Walsh, Veep

    GUEST ACTRESS IN A COMEDY
    Wanda Sykes, black-ish
    Carrie Fisher, Catastrophe
    Becky Ann Baker, Girls
    Angela Bassett, Master of None
    Kristen Wiig, Saturday Night Live
    Melissa McCarthy, Saturday Night Live

    GUEST ACTOR IN A COMEDY
    Riz Ahmed, Girls
    Matthew Rhys, Girls
    Dave Chappelle, Saturday Night Live
    Lin-Manuel Miranda, Saturday Night Live
    Tom Hanks, Saturday Night Live
    Hugh Laurie, Veep

    TV MOVIE
    Black Mirror (“San Junipero”)
    Dolly Parton’s Christmas Of Many Colors: Circle Of Love
    Sherlock: The Lying Detective
    The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks
    The Wizard of Lies


    LIMITED SERIES
    Big Little Lies
    Fargo
    FEUD
    Genius
    The Night Of


    LEAD ACTRESS IN A LIMITED SERIES OR MOVIE
    Carrie Coon, Fargo
    Felicity Huffman, American Crime
    Nicole Kidman, Big Little Lies
    Jessica Lange, FEUD
    Susan Sarandon, FEUD
    Reese Witherspoon, Big Little Lies

    LEAD ACTOR IN A LIMITED SERIES OR MOVIE
    Riz Ahmed, The Night Of
    Benedict Cumberbatch, Sherlock: The Lying Detective
    Robert De Niro, The Wizard of Lies
    Ewan McGregor, Fargo
    Geoffrey Rush, Genius
    John Turturro, The Night Of

    SUPPORTING ACTRESS IN A LIMITED SERIES OR MOVIE
    Regina King, American Crime
    Laura Dern, Big Little Lies
    Shailene Woodley, Big Little Lies
    Judy Davis, FEUD
    Jackie Hoffman, FEUD
    Michelle Pfeiffer, The Wizard of Lies

    SUPPORTING ACTOR IN A LIMITED SERIES OR MOVIE
    Alexander Skarsgård, Big Little Lies
    David Thewlis, Fargo
    Alfred Molina, FEUD
    Stanley Tucci, FEUD
    Bill Camp, The Night Of
    Michael Kenneth Williams, The Night Of

    REALITY SHOW HOST
    Martha Stewart & Snoop Dogg, Martha & Snoop’s Potluck Dinner Party
    Gordon Ramsay, MasterChef Junior
    Alec Baldwin, Match Game
    Heidi Klum & Tim Gunn, Project Runway
    RuPaul Charles, RuPaul’s Drag Race
    W. Kamau Bell, United Shades of America With W. Kamau Bell

    REALITY SHOW COMPETITION
    American Ninja Warrior
    Project Runway
    RuPaul’s Drag Race
    The Amazing Race
    The Voice
    Top Chef


    VARIETY TALK SERIES
    Full Frontal With Samantha Bee
    Jimmy Kimmel Live
    Last Week Tonight With John Oliver
    The Late Late Show With James Corden
    The Late Show With Stephen Colbert
    Real Time With Bill Maher
     
  2. TravisR

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    It's hardly a surprise but The Leftovers was snubbed. As was Mr. Robot.

    The comedy nominations are pretty good. Atlanta won't win but it deserves it.

    I love Jonathan Banks and he's great on Better Call Saul but I kinda wish that Michael McKean had gotten the nomination instead.
     
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    The Emmy Awards are on a June 1 to May 31 year. A number of shows started later this year and missed the cutoff, which opened up some categories in a big way.

    I'm thrilled about:
    • The Drama Series nominations for "Stranger Things", "This Is Us" and "Westworld". The Emmys aren't great at recognizing genre fare, and it's nice to see that a well-made feel good broadcast drama can still make the cut.
    • The Lead Actor nominations for Anthony Hopkins and Milo Ventimiglia. Hopkins was virtually a lock from the beginning, but very very deserved. These were two of my favorite performances of the 2016-17 television season.
    • The Lead Actress nomination for Evan Rachel Wood. I think it's easy to underestimate just how difficult of a performance this was. She was "Westworld's" true lead, and the show would have failed if she hadn't been up to the task.
    • The Supporting Actress nomination for Millie Bobby Brown. Probably the most astonishingly great child performance since Hailee Steinfeld in the Coen Brothers True Grit. Thandie Newton's nomination is also very well deserved.
    • The Supporting Actor nomination for Ron Cephas Jones. For my money, the best performance of the 2016-17 television season. His character told a complete story over the course of the first season, and I was moved by the entire journey. Jeffrey Wright's nomination is also very well deserved.
    • The Guest Actress nomination for Ann Dowd. She was predictably great in her one appearance this season. It's criminal that she's the lone acting representative for "The Leftovers", which was full of incredible performances this season.
    • The Guest Actor nomination for Gerald McRaney. I can't think of an instance where a guest actor has been more crucial to the success of a show. McRaney did some of the best work of his very distinguished career.
    • The Lead Actress nomination for Pamela Adlon. "Better Things" was a brilliant little oddity, and there wouldn't be a show without her.
    • The Guest Actress nomination for Carrie Fisher. I still miss the hell out of her, dammit.
    • The Reality Show Host nomination for Martha Stewart & Snoop Dogg. Just because it's still hilarious and wonderful that "Martha Stewart & Snoop Dogg" is a thing.

    I'm pissed about:
    • The lack of love for "The Leftovers". This season might not have quite reached the heights of the (also criminally underrecognized) second season, but it was an incredible and original work of television.
    • The lack of love for "Legion", which took the superhero framework and existing intellectual property and made the most original show of the year (outside of the "Twin Peaks" revival). Especially egregious is that lack of a Supporting Actress nomination for Aubrey Plaza. She was one of the most captivating (and terrifying) screen villains of the year.
    • "Modern Family" continue to get nominated, even though it's worse than it's ever been.
    • Lauren Graham not making the limited series Lead Actress cut for the "Gilmore Girls" revival.
    • The lack of love for "The Good Place", arguably the best comedy of the 2016-17 TV season. It should have been a lock for a Comedy Series nomination. And Ted Danson not making the comedy Supporting Actor cut for "The Good Place" is shocking. He had to walk a tightrope for that role, and he did it flawlessly.
     
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    Wow, network is almost dead to the Emmys, isn't it?

    Also, Susan Sarandon and Jessica Lange both nominated for Feud... in guessing it won't play out like the Emmy ceremony on the show.
     
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    Yeah, The Good Place is the one comedy off the top of my head that I think definitely deserved to be on there.
     
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    Gotta disagree about Modern Family. I think it is still hilarious.
     
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    I'm in no way questioning his deservingness of recognition for the role, but as a technical question, how did Alec Baldwin get nominated as a supporting actor instead of guest star? He was a guest star!

    Then again, I think it's a little weird that the SNL performers can be nominated in the same categories as people who play the same role for 8, 10, 12, 22 episodes. I'm not necessarily sure I'd call what the SNL cast does "acting" in the same sense as all the other nominees. Which is not to say that they're not worthy of some kind of recognition, I'm just not sure that's the right place. (Similar to my gripe about Gravity winning Best Cinematography when 95% of the movie was animated. The movie was worthy of praise, but maybe not an award for photography since virtually nothing in it was photographed.)
     
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    I agree. Plus, he's a stone cold lock to win so it really sucks for the other guys that are in their proper category.
     
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    The rule is that if you are in eight or more episodes of a show during a season, you cannot submit as a guest actor, even if you're billed as a guest star. That's why he's in supporting and Melissa McCarthy is in guest actress.

    My biggest gripe is that CBS' The Good Fight was not recognized in any way.
     
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    Thanks Matt!
     
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    I agree with Josh regarding the incongruity of SNL performers being nominated in the same categories as performers from the more story line based shows. In my opinion, there should be separate categories for sketch based comedies, although perhaps there aren't enough of them to warrant this?

    Not a single nomination for THE BIG BANG THEORY this year? I guess the Emmy people really consider this iconic sitcom to be past its prime. In my opinion, TBBT is at least still equal to, if not better than, MODERN FAMILY (Which I also still watch and enjoy!), but so it goes!

    CHEERS! :)
     
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    Oscar ceremony. Unless it's played out for laughs I don't see it happening.
     
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    And it's also probably the most hotly contested category at this year's ceremony and with the biggest stars in the line-up. Anyone could win, and making a choice seems impossible!
     
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    There is so. much. good. TV on Sundays right now. I use a Ceton card as my DVR, and it includes four recording slots. Tonight's the first night I've ever had to triage what gets recorded and what gets bumped, because I'm already using all four slots:

    "The Orville", "Teen Wolf" (back-to-back episodes), "The Last Ship", "Outlander", "The Vietnam War", "Fear the Walking Dead", "Rick and Morty".

    I am recording tonight's awards telecast, but I think I'm going to have to just skim through during the twenty minutes at the start of each hour, while I'm waiting for a commercial buffer to build up elsewhere. Even saving "Teen Wolf" and "Fear the Walking Dead" for tomorrow and "The Vietnam War" until later in the week, there's just too much to fit into one night.
     
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    Other than "Teen Wolf" and "Rick and Morty", we've got very similar tastes in viewing.

    As for the Emmy Awards, not to sound like a troll, but "who cares"? I don't watch any of the award shows any longer, just glorified "stars" getting to dress up and show what they're wearing. The world is becoming much more shallow and vain.
     
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    I''m definitely less interested since they started nominating all the shows I've never seen from premium cable channels or streaming services that I don't have, rather than major broadcasters. I think they should have separate categories, or even separate ceremonies, for cable/streaming vs. broadcast.

    About the only contest I care about this year is the Actress race for FEUD. Whether Lange or Sarandon will win, or if they'll split the vote and allow someone else to take the award.
     
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    "The Orville" got delayed by football, so I ended up watching most of it. Kind of a disappointing show. I think Sterling K. Brown was the only one I was rooting for that won.

    And I know the world is fucked up in 2017, and that was bound to factor into the Emmys, but it got a little tiring after a while listening to same tired political jokes and the same pointed jabs and the same affirmations of progressive bona fides.
     
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    Having Colbert as host cinched it.

    But the overriding question of the night for me was:

    Who the $%&+ was the announcer?

    I'm a BIG TV guy...but the show is getting less and less relevant for me as the medium has become so diluted. I'm to the point where I'm not even catching many of the references made during the broadcast.

    But I hadn't heard about some change in the audience's sensibilities that allows it to make sense to hire some young guy to just scream the voiceover announcements and the names of presenters and their credentials. WHO thought THAT was a good idea?!? [​IMG]

    I stopped paying close attention to this year's show. I suspect I may not even tune in next year. It's a shame. I love award shows.
     
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    With the awards now covering so many platforms that I either don't get or don't have time to check out, my rooting interest for the nominees now is greatly reduced. I haven't watched the show in several years. Now, I just read the winners' list on-line, and if there is someone whose speech I want to hear, I'll find it on YouTube in a matter of days.
     
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    It's interesting to read the comments about relevancy and abundance of shows. For me, this was the first year (or maybe the second) where I felt like the awards and my interests finally intersected. Simply put: this year finally recognized good work, and not just popular work (with some exceptions, of course).

    This ties in to comments I've made in other threads (notably Designated Survivor) about shows many simply not being good enough. Few shows on network TV can compete with the quality of those on streaming services and cable. Could The Handmaid's Tale air on CBS in 2017? No. Even if it could, would it be as good? No chance. How about Black Mirror (image the version that would air on FOX)? I can't even imagine what Westworld would look like on NBC.

    Most network TV provides the viewer with reliable but predictable entertainment. When was the last time a network show truly surprised you from week-to-week (and I don't mean in the Shonda-esque "shocker" at the end of every episode)? LOST? Almost every network show returns each week to the status quo, or advances some season arc forward only slightly. When you watch Designated Survivor or The Good Fight, do you honestly not know exactly what is going to happen next scene?

    Network TV doesn't take any risks. Is anything on CBS or ABC shot like Mr. Robot? Does anything challenge the viewer like Twin Peaks or Westworld?

    This was the first award show in recent memory where for almost every award, I could say, "wow, I've seen [almost] all of those, and every nominee is justified."
     

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