57H93 $300 cheaper than 57H84 ???? (1 Viewer)

[Tom#B]

Right now, Best Buy has the Toshiba 57H93 for $1,600 and the 57H84 for $1,900. The 93 has a built-in HD tuner, whereas the 84 does not. Does this price difference make sense? That seems like a very good price on the 93 (particularly since you get free shipping, a free DVD player, and 3 free DVDs). Am I correct in assuming the 84 is a newer model than the 93? And does the 84 have DVI whereas the 93 does not?

Thanks for the help.

Tom

 

[Tom#B]

Apparently onecall also has the 93 cheaper than the 84. They have the 93 on clearance for $1,577. Does anyone know why the 93 is so cheap right now? Is it simply because it is now last year's model?

Tom

 

[Parker Clack]

Features on the 93

Toshiba's 57H93 integrated projection HDTV improves standard-definition sources, displays high-definition signals, and even receives high-definition broadcasts--it requires no external DTV set-top box in order for you to view true 1080i programming. The set delivers stunning images from home-theater components, too, including progressive-scan DVD players, DVRs, satellite receivers, and camcorders.
The included Gemstar interactive program guide shows program data on both digital and analog channels, from both terrestrial and cable sources. It can even control external recording devices for one-touch recording. You can feed the set custom programming, too: the front panel features a multicard flash-memory slot with a built-in JPEG photo viewer so you enjoy digital photos right off your Secure Digital and SmartMedia flash cards.

The set's TruView feature combines several enhancements (black level expansion, fine white, flesh tone correction, and color detail enhancer) to automatically display accurate picture and color details. Also automated, HD Dynamic Contrast continually analyzes picture information and sharpens and deepens those parts of the picture with the most detailed information.

And since not everything you watch will be high-definition in origin (wouldn't that be nice), CrystalScan HDSC upconverts all video signals (including 480i/p) to 1080i HD. This significantly reduces jagged-line artifacts for a smoother, more natural image. (Selectable 540p, for those who want a progressive-scan image from a progressive-scan source, is available through the onscreen menu.) CableClear DNR+ Digital Noise Reduction circuitry optimizes poor NTSC signals from antenna or cable by eliminating video noise (snow).

Meanwhile, DFine high-speed velocity-scan modulation improves the definition at picture edges, creating sharper images by slowing the CRT (cathode-ray tube) beam's horizontal scanning during demanding work--say, when rendering transitions from light to dark parts of an image--and speeding it up when scanning easily rendered sections, like broad dark areas.

A 3D Y/C (4 MB, 10-bit) digital comb filter with Vertical Contour Correction processes RF and composite-video signals, reducing detail noise (seen as shimmering or flicker) in complex scenes. TouchFocus digital convergence creates perfect corner-to-corner focus at the press of a button, and Cinema Mode (3:2 pulldown) circuitry identifies film-based content from DVDs and reassembles the frame sequence to more accurately reproduce a movie's original 24-frame rate. This eliminates artifacts and leaves you with sharp, accurate full-frame progressive images.

The 57H93 is loaded with connections of all stripes, including a DVI HDTV input--handy if you're using it in conjunction with an existing DTV set-top box. Dual ColorStream component-video inputs accommodate compatible high-resolution devices, while standard composite-, S-video, and RF inputs handle everything else you might want to connect.

For audio, the 20-watts-per-channel 57H93 offers SRS WOW, combining SRS 3D, TruBass (which boosts low-frequency perception for dramatic bass effects), and Focus (which raises the perceived sound image vertically to clarify voices) to enhance your home-theater sound. An optical digital-audio output feeds Dolby Digital surround signals to compatible AV receivers and speaker systems, StableSound maintains television volume within a preset range regardless of the source signal, and Toshiba's Sub Bass System (SBS) boosts a program's low-end audio for additional dramatic impact.

The set's TheaterNet Icon IR control system takes TheaterLink IR passthrough capability to new heights through the use of onscreen icons and virtual control bars to operate source devices such as a VCRs or DVD players--even if those components are hidden from view.

Features on the 84

Toshiba's 57H84 HDTV-ready projection TV is well equipped to make the most of your high-end digital and analog source components. The 57-inch set is as loaded with image technologies as it is with connections and conveniences, thereby simplifying your home-theater experience while also enriching it.
The 57H84's exclusive PowerFocus HD lens system was designed specifically for HDTV programming. Most lens systems cannot faithfully reproduce a high-definition signal. PowerFocus HD uses six elements and a quality color-correction system to produce an image that is up to 65 percent sharper than an image produced by standard lens systems. The PowerFocus HD's higher beam current and finer beam spot provide a 30 percent increase in sharpness and a 10 percent increase in brightness over standard CRTs. Toshiba's four-element PowerFocus HC lenses offer 50 percent higher contrast than comparable 5-element lenses, giving you clear, deep, three-dimensional images.

The set's TheaterFine HD super fine-pitch screen uses a .52 mm design to reduce the space between lines on the lenticular screen, which sharpens the image. And since not everything you watch will be high-definition in origin (wouldn't that be nice), CrystalScan HDSC upconverts all video signals (including 480i/p) to 1080i HD. This significantly reduces jagged-line artifacts for a smoother, more natural image. (Selectable 540p, for those who want a progressive-scan image from a progressive-scan source, is available through the onscreen menu.) CableClear DNR+ Digital Noise Reduction circuitry--selectable by input--optimizes poor NTSC signals from antenna or cable by eliminating video noise (snow).

Meanwhile, DFine high-speed velocity-scan modulation improves the definition at picture edges, creating sharper images by slowing the CRT (cathode-ray tube) beam's horizontal scanning during demanding work--say, when rendering transitions from light to dark parts of an image--and speeding it up when scanning easily rendered sections, like broad dark areas.

A 3D Y/C (4 MB, 10-bit) digital comb filter with Vertical Contour Correction processes RF and composite-video signals for a sharp, clean picture. This advanced filter significantly reduces detail noise, seen as shimmering or flicker, in complex or intricate scenes. The TouchFocus digital convergence system (which creates perfect corner-to-corner focus at the press of a button) and AccuFocus 56-point manual convergence system let you choose the best calibration method for your system.

The 57H84 is loaded with connections of all stripes, including a HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) HDTV input, which gives you a pure, uncompressed video connection with your DTV receiver or set-top box (not included). HDMI supports standard-definition (SD), enhanced definition (ED), or high-definition (HD) video, plus multichannel digital audio--all using a single cable. It transmits all ATSC HDTV standards and supports up to 8-channel digital audio, with bandwidth to spare to accommodate future enhancements and requirements.

For audio, the 57H84 offers SRS WOW, combining SRS 3D (which creates a wide three-dimensional sound field), TruBass (which boosts bass frequency perception for dramatic low-frequency effects), and Focus (which raises the perceived sound image vertically to clarify voices) to greatly enhance your home-theater sound.

The set's split-cabinet design allows the cabinet to be divided for ease of delivery and installation.


The 84 appears to be the newer of the two. The 84 has HDMI instead of DVI but the 93 does have DVI inputs. I like the idea that the 93 has the built in HDTV tuners.