Rob Gillespie
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Matt, gotta say I don't *quite* get the thing about the Mohicans score. It's a nice tune for sure, but it seems there's only ONE tune throughout the entire film.
It's a nice tune for sure, but it seems there's only ONE tune throughout the entire film.But it was composed by two different composers. There are two distinct feels to the music for lack of a better word. Of course they only mentioned Trevor Jones and not Randy Edelman.
My list would have been completely different, and just as maligned by others.
the nerve to include *any* James "anvil-clanker" Horner scoresHey come on, Horner has done some really good scores in the past 20 years, he got a bit too syrupy for my taste in the 90's, but he did some fine music in the 80's...
Glory, Star Trek II, Krull, Cocoon, Aliens, Field of Dreams etc.
The Rocketeer was my favorite of his from the 90's, a superb score.
Also great were Braveheart, Apollo 13 and Mask of Zorro.
My personal favorite is from the Superman movie, but that is just me, and it isn't even in the topI definelty agree that Superman should of been in there. I think it is better than many of William's other scores that made the list.
Any listing of greatest film scores that can actually have the nerve to include *any* James "anvil-clanker" Horner scores (and, in this case, two!) and none by Herrmann is automatically invalid.I agree 100%. I guess Herrmann's scores are too good to appear on such a list. They even got their John Williams priorities wrong: HARRY POTTER instead of SUPERMAN, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS or JAWS??
--Bill
34. The World is Not Enough, David Arnold
Most disturbing to me was:
34. The World is Not Enough, David Arnoldyup I know it should have been:
34. Tomorrow Never Dies, David Arnold
You guys are quite correct, if the list doesn't happen to include your favorites than it's automatically invalid.
John William's Superman the Movie and Close Encounters are two of his greatest scores and should have been up there, oh well.
Hey come on, Horner has done some really good scores in the past 20 years, he got a bit too syrupy for my taste in the 90's, but he did some fine music in the 80's... Glory, Star Trek II, Krull, Cocoon, Aliens, Field of Dreams etc.
The Rocketeer was my favorite of his from the 90's, a superb score.
Also great were Braveheart, Apollo 13 and Mask of Zorro.Frankly, those are some of his worst offenders.
Wrath of Khan is just plain bad tuneless mush and Krull is a re-write of the same music. Glory is Carmina Burana without the class, Cocoon is Day the Earth Stood Still without the talent, Aliens clanks anvils endlessly for dramatic effect, Field of Dreams is ok in the movie, The Rocketeer sounds like Cocoon and Khan with even sloppier playing and conducting, Braveheart was okay except for the choir bits, Mask of Zorro I've never seen or heard, and Apollo 13 doesn't hurt the movie, but doesn't help it, either, when the heavenly angels from Glory start singing at the end.
I don't like Horner's music, can you tell?
Leaving Herrmann out is like compiling a list of the greatest English-language plays and leaving off anything by Shakespeare.Ok so they managed to poll 44,000 people who simply weren't interested in Herrmann's music, or don't listen to him in the car, these things happen. It's a poll of radio listeners not an academic polling of film music devotees, which would most likely produce an entirely different top 50.
I do most of my soundtrack listening in my car on the way to work, mostly Goldsmith, Williams, Barry, Poledouris, Morricone.
In my opinion Bernard Herrmann IS the greatest film composer of them all, but outside of the films themselves I rarely listen to his soundtracks on their own.
Jerry Goldsmith by far is my most listened to film composer and the most prolific in my 400+ soundtrack collection.