OLED65E6PWhat was the model number on that 3D OLED?
OLED65E6PWhat was the model number on that 3D OLED?
The first rule of technology shopping: The best time to buy is always tomorrow.Personally, I am a bit afraid to upgrade. Seems whenever I up my system to something new, all the manufacturers announce their new latest and greatest upgrades and new formats.
Ron et al, hate to be that guy, but what you're responding to isn't the 4K resolution, which, unless you're sitting very close to a very large TV isn't that noticeable over 1080p (think 720p v. 1080p), but rather the High Dynamic Range (HDR) and Wide Color Gamut (WCG) afforded most 4K programming. And, of course, the brilliant blacks of the LG OLED. So the real game-changer isn't 4K but rather HDR and WCG, the latter producing 46% (DCI-P3 color gamut )/67% (Rec.2020 gamut) of the colors the human eye can see v. the 34% afforded us by the Blu-ray standard (Rec.709 gamut). Lucky for us, 4K just happens to be vessel in which both are embedded. Not that the additional resolution isn't appreciated, but again, the real difference makers are the improved dynamic range of the HDR10/Dolby Vision metadata and more accurate/poppier colors of the BT.2020 color space (which, in reality, is more like the DCI-P3 color space until TVs are able to produce more colors, still a ways off.) Enjoy the wonderful pictures. Once you've seen a 4K HDR10/Dolby Vision encoded image, Standard Dynamic Range (SDR) is a big, fat bummer.
I don't think 99% of the average TV buyers even know what HDR is, let alone what it does.
All they want to see on the TV box is "4K" and maybe "UHD"
This is probably most directed to Ron Epstein but anyone can chime in.
I am a huge fan of 3d and especially 3d in the home. I currently own a benq w1070, a great affordable 3d 1080p projector but recently upgraded to a 4k, dolby atmos etc. capable yamaha receiver and have been toying with an upgrade to 4k on the projector front. There are 3d capable 4k projectors that are quite reasonably priced but I am gathering from above comments that what really matters is not the 4K per se but the HDR and WCG. It also sounds like maybe the lower end 4k projectors may not have HDR and WCG capacity but I am not sure of that.
I know Ron is (was??) big into 3d and I am curious if the loss of 3d capabilities played into the decision of moving to 4k at all?
Is the move to 4k worth losing the ability to do 3d? I don't have the luxury of having 2 different set ups so if I were to move to 4k it would be via a projector upgrade. However, I am thinking I may need to lose 3d in order to get affordable HDR and WCG in a projector. Is that a reasonable assumption?
Glad you are happy with your new set up Ron!
Regards,
Kip
Congratulations on the upgrade.I am one of the last handfuls of members on this forum to finally get into 4k. As I noted, it wasn't really my intention. I completely sympathize with those members still holding on to their 1080p displays. It's an expensive upgrade when you want to do it right. However, sooner or later the rest of you will also be dealing with failing equipment. When that happens, don't be afraid to open your wallet and step up.
Congratulations on the upgrade.
I am one of those holdouts and a question I'd like to ask you is how do your old DVDs look on this new display? The reason I ask is that my movie collection is probably quite different than that of the average HTF member.
I currently have 2379 films in my home video collection, 1742 of which are black & white films released before 1960, and over 1400 of those are not available even on Blu-ray, much less 4K. What could I expect most of these DVDs to look like in the event my seven year old DLP television dies and I have to make the same decision you did?
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That's good to hear. My major concern with an eventual "upgrade" to 4K has been that my existing DVD collection will look worse on a 4K TV than on my current television, which is a 73" DLP set on which most of my DVDs look very good.On my 65" OLED, most studio releases still look very watchable without a lot of distracting artifacts.
I had the same experience as Matt.It depends on the authoring of the original DVDs. Many of my favorite films haven't made the transition to Blu-ray, but if some expert hands were present when the films were authored for DVD, they hold up quite well on a TV (projection might be less appealing). On my 65" OLED, most studio releases still look very watchable without a lot of distracting artifacts. They certainly look superior to standard definition cable broadcasts which I find soft and rather a chore to watch so I try to avoid them whenever possible.
This is probably most directed to Ron Epstein but anyone can chime in.
I am a huge fan of 3d and especially 3d in the home. I currently own a benq w1070, a great affordable 3d 1080p projector but recently upgraded to a 4k, dolby atmos etc. capable yamaha receiver and have been toying with an upgrade to 4k on the projector front. There are 3d capable 4k projectors that are quite reasonably priced but I am gathering from above comments that what really matters is not the 4K per se but the HDR and WCG. It also sounds like maybe the lower end 4k projectors may not have HDR and WCG capacity but I am not sure of that.
I know Ron is (was??) big into 3d and I am curious if the loss of 3d capabilities played into the decision of moving to 4k at all?
Is the move to 4k worth losing the ability to do 3d? I don't have the luxury of having 2 different set ups so if I were to move to 4k it would be via a projector upgrade. However, I am thinking I may need to lose 3d in order to get affordable HDR and WCG in a projector. Is that a reasonable assumption?
Glad you are happy with your new set up Ron!
Regards,
Kip