Well, I took a gamble upgrading to the 3802. I wanted to see if all the hype was deserved for this unit. In my case, apparently not. I replaced a two-year-old Yamaha HTR 5150, and I must say, the sound for HT is absolutely identical. I get a kick out of these posts saying "the sound really came alive" or whatever. DPL II is overblown as well. I can tell no difference when watching prologic movies or TV. So my advice to those with "receiver upgrade-itis": don't bother, especially if you already have entry-level Yamaha. I didn't realize how great my 5150 was until I bought the doubly expensive Denon and noticed no improvement in HT performance. The 5150 is a steal. But don't get me wrong, I do not have buyer's remorse. I had to find this out for myself...and not even a weekend audition would have allowed me enough time to make a full and accurate judgment. The positive is now I have 2 HT systems, and both kick butt.