32 inch regular tv with a real squeeze.

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  1. Robert Mayrand

    Robert Mayrand Stunt Coordinator

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    Well after consulting this board. I now decided to buy a 32" regular tube tv. There are only two features I really want
    -Component in. Or at least s-video
    -Real vertical squeeze (I read recently that some squeeze simply do what your dvd player do when set to 4:3 set without helping for the resolution, I want one wich really improve resolution in 16:9 mode)

    I want to buy the cheapest tv available with those two features, can you help me with some suggestions.

    Thanks
    Rob
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    Not quite sure what you mean when you say that some sets appear to downconvert images--or scale them--for a letterboxed presentation.

    The "squeeze" means collapsing a 4:3 set's entire scanning-line raster into a 16:9 window. Thus, you can tell your DVD player to output at 16:9, and you can make use of a 16:9-encoded disc's entire 480 visible lines of resolution.

    Most modern TVs can accomplish this through their service menus. A few allow this to be done from the user menu. The Sony WEGAs are known for this. But they cost about $200 more than competing sets in the same size range.
     
  3. Robert Mayrand

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    I got this info from an old posting here. If i can find it i'll post again.

    Are the service menu easily accessible on most TV or are some brand more accessible than other. Is this something that you can easily adjust for a dvd viewing and then get back without disturbing any other setting?

    I read that most samsung got this but never find any mention on the spec sheets....how can we know?

    Thanks for your help

    Robert.
     
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    Robert, I can't speak for all tv's but on my JVC 32", it's pretty easy to acess the service menu, and there are only six diferent settings you have to adjust to do the squeeze. It takes a little playing with it at first to get your best settings, but once you have it figured out it's not that hard and well worth it for the vastly improved picture quality. It only takes a couple of minutes and it's easy to change back. On the other hand, on my 27" Samsung, you just have to push a button on the remote, which is much more of a convienence.Also,I would defintely get a tv with component inputs, especially if you are planning to do an anamorphic squeeze, the extra color detail will be enchanced by the improved picture clarity.
     
  5. Robert Mayrand

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    Do all samsung do this. I've just been to samsung website and there is no mention about this. I'm planing on buying a 32" or 27" if budget is too tight. I would really appreciate if you could tell me wich samsung model have this feature on the control and how is it called on the remote?

    Thanks

    Rob
     
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    I'm betting I have the same model Toshiba as DanV.

    I know what settings he's talking about. Let me say though... of the 6 settings that I needed to change to IMPROVE my picture and squeeze it, only 2 ended up impacting the squeeze. The other 4 needed tweaking because out of the box the TV needed it.(NOT to say it was bad)

    So, I only need to set 2 values to do the squeeze.
    I assure you it can be done in 30 seconds.

    I've been to Best Buy and seen 27 and 32-inch Samsungs with the squeeze button right on the remote. I would have bought the 32 but for the fact that Samsung puts the TV speakers on the left and right of the screen, making it too wide for my entertainment center.

    For what it's worth, I would have bought the Samsung because of the convenience of the remote button, BUT the Toshiba has a MUCH better picture.

    FYI

    Matt
     
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    Matt,

    DaveV has the JVC which I am assuming is also a D Series set. This leads me to my next question.


    DaveV,

    Assuming you have the 32 D-series JVC set, when you enter the service menu, and squeeze it, don't you get a light green line going across the bottom?


    I too am in the market for a 32 inch set. I heard mixed things about Samsung. Seeing the poor quality of some of their other products I am curious how the TV sets are rated.

    The Tau also does the squeeze via the user menu but I was not able to find it in the store.

    I am considering the Wega, despite hearing all the nightmare stories about it. Basically the easy to change 16x9 mode and the component inputs is why I think I will give this set a try.
     
  8. Dan V

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    Eric, I didn't have a problem with a green line at the bottom, but with a white line at the top, but by adjusting the V BLK UP up it took care of it. Just a hunch, but you may want to try to adjust the V BLK LOW setting ( number 85 on my tv, may be different on yours) to see if that helps.
     
  9. Dan V

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    Robert, the Samsung model # is TXL2791F, and the Akai model sold at Sams Club is CFT2791.I think the 2790 series, which is almost identical, also has the squeeze option on the remote. It is labeled on the remote as P.SIZE and lets you adjust between normal, zoom, and wide, which does the anamorphic squeeze.
     
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    From what I've been told & read about, "ALL" Samsung TV's 20 inch & up flat tube & round tube will do the "Squeeze Trick" from the remote & from the menu even though Samsung doesn't mention it on their website. The cheap 32 inch Curtis Mathis ($399) at K-Mart will also do it because it's made by Samsung, but it doesn't have component video inputs like the 32 inch Samsung's.
     

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