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That, and specific requests from certain directors. Warner Music had a licence to use both the WB shield and the \\' for a number of years after Warner sold it off. The licence expired and Warner Music opted to change the name and logo to Warner Records. Block Font with a circle to the left of Warner in the logo with the bottom sliced off, like this:
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Yeah I saw it on a new pressing of Paranoid the other day. Thought it was just a Black Sabbath thing.
 

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"Our new studio names and logos mark a new day for ABC Signature, 20th Television and Touchstone Television while honoring their rich histories and the creative power of The Walt Disney Company,"

As Santa says, Ho, ho, ho. There's no "honoring their histories" here. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with Disney execs calling parts of their company anything they want for any reason that suits their fancy. I only ask they not insult my intelligence while they're doing it.
 

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"Our new studio names and logos mark a new day for ABC Signature, 20th Television and Touchstone Television while honoring their rich histories and the creative power of The Walt Disney Company,"

As Santa says, Ho, ho, ho. There's no "honoring their histories" here. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with Disney execs calling parts of their company anything they want for any reason that suits their fancy. I only ask they not insult my intelligence while they're doing it.

Meanwhile, the actual Touchstone Television that made The Golden Girls, Empty Nest, Blossom, Home Improvement, and Desperate Housewives is the one being renamed to ABC Signature while the new touchstone television is what used to be Fox 21 Television. And they gave it the laziest mainstream US studio logo in history, at least of modern times. I've seen some cheapskate ideas from Disney before, but this one takes the cheesecake. From this:



To this:



To this:



And after a decade or more of dormancy under Iger, to this:

 

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Meanwhile, the actual Touchstone Television that made The Golden Girls, Empty Nest, Blossom, Home Improvement, and Desperate Housewives is the one being renamed to ABC Signature while the new touchstone television is what used to be Fox 21 Television. And they gave it the laziest mainstream US studio logo in history, at least of modern times. I've seen some cheapskate ideas from Disney before, but this one takes the cheesecake. From this:



To this:



To this:



And after a decade or more of dormancy under Iger, to this:



It's more of a continuation of laziness

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21st Century Fox was a division of 20th Century Fox which focused on mid-level adult dramas and a bunch of literary adaptations. Disney closed that down when they acquired the studio and sold off its last remaining film, The Woman in the Window, to Netflix a week or so ago.

On another note with regard to the logos, Disney has an annoying history of updating their studio logo on catalog releases so that it reflects the current logo at the time of release. Pop in any recent animated Blu-ray like The Little Mermaid or Aladdin and you'll see the current CGI castle logo rather than the one from when the film was released in the first place.

This raises a question: on the new UHD disc of Home Alone, are they going to leave the logo as-is, or are they going to swap it to 20th Century Studios?

Obviously, I hope they leave it alone. But unfortunately, it would not shock me if it gets changed over.

You might take comfort hearing that for the new versions (D+ and UHD disc) of the first two Star Wars trilogies, they retained the 90s Fox logo, just removing the News Corp. byline. Though I'd have preferred no tinkering at all, that they went out of their way to render a new version of the logo still carrying the Fox brand hopefully bodes well for the preservation fo the brand on catalog titles.
 

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I kinda wish Rupert Murdoch sold the Fox name to Disney; then HE would have to rebrand his properties. Because let's face it, 20th Century Fox has been around a lot longer than Fox News. There's a cultural relevance to the 20th Century Fox brand that renaming it only tarnishes it.
 

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I kinda wish Rupert Murdoch sold the Fox name to Disney; then HE would have to rebrand his properties. Because let's face it, 20th Century Fox has been around a lot longer than Fox News. There's a cultural relevance to the 20th Century Fox brand that renaming it only tarnishes it.

Certainly wouldn't have happened... "Fox" is worth a lot more to Murdoch as a brand than to Disney.
 

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It will, of course, remain on older titles, but now under Disney, the name is officially dead. Too many mice in the movies these days.


Oh, like we didn't see this one coming a mile away. As long as they don't go back and retro-fit every Fox classic movie release with a Disney logo, I am marginally contented, but it's VERY sad to see one of the all-time great movie empires crumble before our eyes. I felt the same way when Kirk Kerkorian dismantled Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer in the mid-70's, just so he could slap the name and the lion on his Vegas casino and airline. Dumb decisions. What Darryl F. Zanuck and L.B. Mayer must be thinking, if they're watching somewhere from on high.
 

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I kinda wish Rupert Murdoch sold the Fox name to Disney; then HE would have to rebrand his properties. Because let's face it, 20th Century Fox has been around a lot longer than Fox News. There's a cultural relevance to the 20th Century Fox brand that renaming it only tarnishes it.
Not 100% accurate
"Fox" had been delivering visual news reports for years.
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Oh, like we didn't see this one coming a mile away. As long as they don't go back and retro-fit every Fox classic movie release with a Disney logo, I am marginally contented, but it's VERY sad to see one of the all-time great movie empires crumble before our eyes. I felt the same way when Kirk Kerkorian dismantled Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer in the mid-70's, just so he could slap the name and the lion on his Vegas casino and airline. Dumb decisions. What Darryl F. Zanuck and L.B. Mayer must be thinking, if they're watching somewhere from on high.

Kirk Kerkorian might have been the least bad thing to happen to MGM in the last 50 years. The studio didn't turn into a financial basket case overnight. Under anyone else, it might have ceased to exist altogether. The old studio in Culver City is now home to Columbia, but the company itself lives on with its name and logo still very much alive and making its presence known, sometimes at the expense of other studio logos and even older UA logos. This is to compensate for how Ted Turner's short-lived ownership created an ownership schism in the library that split everything before Poltergeist II and cost them the rights to Gilligan's Island but eventually allowed all the WB titles to be under one roof again while giving them ownership of the output of Metro's long-gone, likely unrepeatable glory days.

What's left of what used to be Fox seems to be on shaky ground if Disney cannot pull itself out of a partly self-created financial hole. They should be ruthlessly exploiting this library for profit. Like its own back catalog, only a small trickle of the Fox library has come out on disc or streaming yet, and only time will tell whether we get more … or less.
 

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What happens now with all the Classic 20th Century Fox movies from the 1930's to 1970's ? :huh: Will they be Re-released on Bluray ? Or titles that were Never released like Les Miserables 1935 & 1952 I have the old DVD flip disc. House of Strangers ? The Longest Day (remastered) Patton & The Sound of Music in 4K UHD ?? etc.
 

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What happens now with all the Classic 20th Century Fox movies from the 1930's to 1970's ? :huh: Will they be Re-released on Bluray ? Or titles that were Never released like Les Miserables 1935 & 1952 I have the old DVD flip disc. House of Strangers ? The Longest Day (remastered) Patton & The Sound of Music in 4K UHD ?? etc.
It doesn't look good, but, anything is possible whenever the post-pandemic era begins.
 
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Well this stuff happens. Pre mid-eighties MGM films now come under the Warner banner, United Artist films are now MGM, & Columbia films are now Sony.
 
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