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To me the window length issue affects not only how and when people are able to access the film, but also the perception of quality. If a film shows up available to stream mere weeks after theatrical release I'm likely to assume it was a bomb at the box office, dampening my enthusiasm for it. Plus, it blurs the line between honest to goodness "films" on the one hand, and mere "content" churned out by the Netflix/Amazon/etc. product mills on the other. The endless parade of terrible direct to streaming Adam Sandler movies being one of the most prominent examples of the latter.
It's really just people taking the wrong approach to watching Adam Sandler movies.
 

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I guess we can expect Furiosa to show up on (HBO) Max in 3-4 weeks then?
They'll send it to PVOD first to try to get high-priced rentals and purchases before including it with the subscription service. Dune Part Two opened theatrically on February 29. PVOD was April 16. The Blu-ray was May 14 and I think it came to Max last week or so. That is WB's pattern. Whether the theatrical underperformance accelerates the home release or not, I still expect them to try to get paid for it in-home first.
 

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They'll send it to PVOD first to try to get high-priced rentals and purchases before including it with the subscription service. Dune Part Two opened theatrically on February 29. PVOD was April 16. The Blu-ray was May 14 and I think it came to Max last week or so. That is WB's pattern. Whether the theatrical underperformance accelerates the home release or not, I still expect them to try to get paid for it in-home first.

I'm losing track of which studio does what w/ this... :rolleyes: not that I'd ever wanna do PVOD or reactivate whichever subscription streaming service (like HBO Max) solely for something like this...

Mostly just wondering how long Furiosa will actually stay in theaters (mostly for my friends who are interested, but might not get around to it w/in 1st couple weeks or so) -- glad to see it'll at least be on premium screens for 2 whole weeks though...

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Mostly just wondering how long Furiosa will actually stay in theaters (mostly for my friends who are interested, but might not get around to it w/in 1st couple weeks or so) -- glad to see it'll at least be on premium screens for 2 whole weeks though...
I think that depends on when theater owners have enough new product they think will do better to replace it. The major studios don't have a new wide release on the schedule this weekend, so it will keep the premium screens almost by default.
 

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Apparently WB is re-releasing Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban in the UK for its 20th (!) anniversary.

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Considering the state of the box office right now, I'm not sure why they aren't doing this on a worldwide basis. The Phantom Menace re-release made not quite $20 million worldwide, and that's with a chunk of Star Wars fans who don't like that movie. Of course, any re-release isn't going to draw the same size crowd as a new release film would. But I think there's probably a decent number of Harry Potter fans who would show up for a re-release of this particular title. It seems to be many people's favorite. It is certainly my favorite. I'm not going to fly across the pond for it, but I'd absolutely go if it was available locally. On an overlooked weekend such as this where the major studios aren't releasing anything, why not?

Considering what Furiosa's financial fees are right now
That's exactly why it won't go to Max immediately. If they bundle it with the streaming service now, they cut off revenue from the premium-priced rentals. They'll try to make as much money as possible by giving home viewers a chance to pay for it before it is bundled into the subscription later.
 
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^I (and probably some in my extended family) would probably go see Prisoner of Azkaban at a good re-release screening, especially since I have AMC A-List these days, if they do that here.

There isn't exactly a whole lot else particularly good (and new-ish) around now I'd rather see instead. I am glad though that also means Furiosa's getting a 2nd week on premium screens... as I definitely wanna see that again (and plan to in the coming week)...

I wonder though if Warner was maybe just a little concerned that might divert audience away from Furiosa over here or something -- I wouldn't think there's actually much risk given the likely demographics, but then again, Warner did spend $$$ on Furiosa (and would probably need/expect to cover the larger overall market to make sense even though Furiosa is R-rated), so...

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I wonder though if Warner was maybe just a little concerned that might divert audience away from Furiosa over here or something...
I doubt it. I don't think anybody who really wants to see Furiosa would choose not to do so simply because Azkaban was (hypothetically) in the marketplace. Besides, they don't seem overly similar to me. Furiosa is a violent R-rated action movie that is clearly intended exclusively for adults. Azkaban would certainly bring in some adults but would also play to the family audience whose only other real option right now is Garfield. So I wouldn't worry about it cannibalizing Furiosa.

Cinemark played Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows over Labor Day weekend last year in a handful of their locations for some reason. I went to it and there were maybe three or four others there. However, that was a single ticket double feature of the last two that lasted several hours. Azkaban coming out as a single movie again would almost certainly do more business.
 

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Apparently WB is re-releasing Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban in the UK for its 20th (!) anniversary.

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Considering the state of the box office right now, I'm not sure why they aren't doing this on a worldwide basis. The Phantom Menace re-release made not quite $20 million worldwide, and that's with a chunk of Star Wars fans who don't like that movie. Of course, any re-release isn't going to draw the same size crowd as a new release film would. But I think there's probably a decent number of Harry Potter fans who would show up for a re-release of this particular title. It seems to be many people's favorite. It is certainly my favorite. I'm not going to fly across the pond for it, but I'd absolutely go if it was available locally. On an overlooked weekend such as this where the major studios aren't releasing anything, why not?


That's exactly why it won't go to Max immediately. If they bundle it with the streaming service now, they cut off revenue from the premium-priced rentals. They'll try to make as much money as possible by giving home viewers a chance to pay for it before it is bundled into the subscription later.
I partially agree, but don't you think the Harry Potter remake will have higher fees than Fantastic Beasts?
 

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I doubt it. I don't think anybody who really wants to see Furiosa would choose not to do so simply because Azkaban was (hypothetically) in the marketplace. Besides, they don't seem overly similar to me. Furiosa is a violent R-rated action movie that is clearly intended exclusively for adults. Azkaban would certainly bring in some adults but would also play to the family audience whose only other real option right now is Garfield. So I wouldn't worry about it cannibalizing Furiosa.

I agree they shouldn't worry about that, but they did also spend so much to make Furiosa, so I could maybe see them not wanting to take any (further) risk on that at all.

Of course, the young people who originally saw Azkaban during/around its original release are all adults now (and some might even have their own kids though maybe mostly not quite ready for Azakaban yet?). Don't know if that somehow also factored into their decision.

Also, HP probably isn't quite as popular (and in most audience's minds) as Star Wars (at least at this point), so they might not see TPM's re-release figures being particularly good indicator for this... plus did they really have enough time to decide and plan for theatrical re-release based on TPM re-release boxoffice figures?

Makes sense they wouldn't be as concerned in the UK market, of course...

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I partially agree, but don't you think the Harry Potter remake will have higher fees than Fantastic Beasts?
I'm not really sure what you're asking here. I'm not talking about a remake, though they're going to do that for television. I'm talking about just putting the already existing movie out in theaters again. It would not need to gross anywhere near the amount that a new release would because they've already made their money on the film once. Anything it makes now would just be some extra cash for WB and theater owners.

plus did they really have enough time to decide and plan for theatrical re-release based on TPM re-release boxoffice figures?
I don't think they needed to look at The Phantom Menace necessarily, but its recent success demonstrates that their can be some money in theatrical re-releases for the right title. Disney printed up some new posters for TPM and that's basically it, so the almost $20 million it grossed is essentially free money. WB was probably already planning on doing this for Azkaban in the UK regardless. I just think it is strange to limit the release only to the UK, especially considering the lack of major new releases this weekend. But if WB doesn't want to take money from worldwide fans, that's their prerogative.
 
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Movie TitleDistributorGross%LWTheatersTheaters
Change
Per
Theater
Total
Gross
Weekends In
Release
1(2)The Garfield MovieSony Pictures$14,000,000-42%4,108+73$3,408$51,572,0002
2(3)IFParamount Pi…$10,800,000-33%3,783-285$2,855$80,429,0003
3(1)Furiosa: A Mad Max SagaWarner Bros.$10,750,000-59%3,864+60$2,782$49,668,0002
4(4)Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes20th Century…$8,800,000-34%3,450-100$2,551$139,996,0594
5(5)The Fall GuyUniversal$4,200,000-30%2,826-129$1,486$80,285,0005
6(6)The Strangers: Chapter 1Lionsgate$3,600,000-35%2,527-329$1,425$28,365,8403
7NHaikyu!! The Dumpster BattleCrunchyroll$3,500,000 1,119 $3,128$3,500,0001
8NIn a Violent NatureIFC Films$2,119,000 1,426 $1,486$2,119,0001
9NEzraBleecker Street$1,183,581 1,320 $897$1,183,5811
-(7)SightAngel Studios$1,084,918-61%2,118+18$512$5,888,0282
-(10)BabesNeon$910,000-14%1,118+523$814$2,760,4933
-(11)TarotSony Pictures$400,000-47%503-361$795$17,889,0005
-(13)I Saw the TV GlowA24$358,828-30%292-166$1,229$3,575,9645
-(9)Back to BlackFocus Features$250,000-77%672-1,341$372$6,003,0003
-(15)Civil WarA24$173,364-43%235-216$738$68,432,7948
-(-)Unsung HeroLionsgate$126,000-58%288-242$438$20,190,3576
-(-)Kung Fu Panda 4Universal$110,000-54%215-270$512$193,535,00013
-(-)WildcatOscilloscope…$64,895-18%47-47$1,381$500,1135
-(-)Evil Does Not ExistJanus Films$47,200-50%85-53$555$634,8925
-NRobot DreamsNeon$32,536 2 $16,268$32,5361
-NFlipsideOscilloscope…$12,879 1 $12,879$12,8791
-NHandling the UndeadNeon$8,031 1 $8,031$8,0311
22$62,531,232
 

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Maybe I should just use all 3 of my AMC A-List allotments to see Furiosa on premium screens again this week, LOL.

I was considering The Dead Don't Hurt and Young Woman and the Sea for the other 2 -- probably not interested enough in In a Violent Nature (and most of the rest), which I passed last week (in favor of the Spidey re-release).

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