2024-2025 NFL Season (1 Viewer)

[Malcolm R]

Interesting, so the game did well but is it people can't find ESPN2? Or don't know the Manningcast is on? Or just find Peyton and Eli annoying?

I imagine it's #3.

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

I imagine it's #3.

I can see that.

 

[Robert Crawford]

I imagine it's #3.

I can see that.

I don't think so because I think only football geeks would enjoy the ManningCast while the majority of the audience just want to watch the game without interruptions. Also, the Disney/DirecTV dispute doesn't help the current numbers because ESPN 2 is down for customers like myself.

 

[Robert Crawford]

I believe Watson's NFL suspension should have been much longer than what he received. He didn't receive enough of a punishment in my opinion. However, this new allegation occurred during the same time frame as the previous allegations so I don't understand how the NFL can suspend him again. Another suspension would be in order if this new allegation occurred before or after those previous allegations and suspension. One thing is for sure, the dude was a sexual predator. I hope he's still not that way, but I have my doubts.

 

[Scott Merryfield]

I don't think so because I think only football geeks would enjoy the ManningCast while the majority of the audience just want to watch the game without interruptions.

I think is probably the reason, too. They throw around a lot of technical terms and dive into the deep details of the sport. Only the most arduous followers of the NFL probably find this interesting.

 

[Malcolm R]

From PFT's weekly picks, LOL.

Chargers (-6) at Panthers

Sunday’s in-stadium contest goes like this . . . “Guess the final score exactly and you won’t have to attend any more games this year.”

 

[Robert Crawford]

Looks like the Bills are going to win this game up by 21 points and Tua knocked out of the game with a concussion.

 

[Walter Kittel]

Watched the first half of the Bill & Dolphins and then decided to do something else. It looks like the Bills had a much better game plan and managed to negate the speed of the Dolphins' wide receivers. Achane had a good game for the Dolphins (at least in the 1st half). Looking at the game stats the Dolphins out gained the Bills in total yardage and held a sizable lead in time of possession, but they also had 3 turnovers to the Bills' 0. It is still early, but the Bills are looking like the class of the AFC East after two weeks.

- Walter.

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

Pretty horrifying that Tua was concussed again and again went into a serious state that indicates severe brain injury when it happened. I can't imagine him continuing to play football. It looks like he is on his way to some severe brain related health issues.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Pretty horrifying that Tua was concussed again and again went into a serious state that indicates severe brain injury when it happened. I can't imagine him continuing to play football. It looks like he is on his way to some severe brain related health issues.

At this time, I don't quite agree with all your comments. However, the Dolphins should look into a special helmet for Tua that better protects his head. Furthermore, he needs to slid feet first before contact.

 

[Jeffrey D]

Watched the first half of the Bill & Dolphins and then decided to do something else. It looks like the Bills had a much better game plan and managed to negate the speed of the Dolphins' wide receivers. Achane had a good game for the Dolphins (at least in the 1st half). Looking at the game stats the Dolphins out gained the Bills in total yardage and held a sizable lead in time of possession, but they also had 3 turnovers to the Bills' 0. It is still early, but the Bills are looking like the class of the AFC East after two weeks.

- Walter.

Let’s see if their getting rid of Diggs helps their leadership issues they have had in recent years. There has been something wrong with that team, aside from Allen’s inconsistency. I’d like to see the Bills climb to the top of the mountain (if the Bengals can’t get there).

 

[Walter Kittel]

Furthermore, he needs to slid feet first before contact.

Considering Tua's history he absolutely, positively should never finish a run head first. I believe he seriously needs to evaluate the current state of his health and start thinking about a post football life and his ability to enjoy it.

I’d like to see the Bills climb to the top of the mountain

I'll be pulling for the Houston Texans in the AFC, but if they come up short, I would be very happy to see the Bills win. I have some genuine empathy for the fans of a team that went to the Super Bowl four consecutive years and came up short four times. I've mentioned the program A Football Life previously in this thread, and another episode I remember well was the coverage of the Kelly years when the Bills got close to the prize. That team, along with the Bum Phillips' Oilers might be the two best teams to never win a Super Bowl. (I'm sure there are others, but those two readily come to mind.)

- Walter.

 

[Malcolm R]

At this time, I don't quite agree with all your comments. However, the Dolphins should look into a special helmet for Tua that better protects his head. Furthermore, he needs to slid feet first before contact.

Yes, an unfortunate incident that was well within his power to avoid. I'd thought they said he'd learned to better protect himself. Didn't look like it from that play, dropping his head to spear the defender. Hope he's OK, but he should know better, given his history, that he can't play like that. Especially in a game that was already essentially over.

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

Well, he showed signs of severe brain trauma when he went down, the thing with his fingers and how his hands reacted indicates it was a serious problem. To me, I am not a doctor, he appears to be becoming, or already is easy to concuss. I believe that you become more susceptible to concussions the more you have. When I saw the play, yes he should be sliding feet first, it did not look horrible, the impact appeared mostly from him slamming into the defender head first. As everybody said, but that is a typical football play and running backs and tacklers experience those kind of impacts all the time. He suffered a concussion from it though and again, not what was a mild concussion, one where his body goes into what is like a seizure. It looks scary when it happens.

Football is a contact sport. Players are going to play the game the way they always have played it. They have natural instincts to dive for a first down, because they are trying to make a play. Sure, it is up to Tua or any player how they will play the game but man, he's a dad. He's got to take his health and well being seriously. I would not want to be the doctor that clears him to go back onto the field.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Well, he showed signs of severe brain trauma when he went down, the thing with his fingers and how his hands reacted indicates it was a serious problem. To me, I am not a doctor, he appears to be becoming, or already is easy to concuss. I believe that you become more susceptible to concussions the more you have. When I saw the play, yes he should be sliding feet first, it did not look horrible, the impact appeared mostly from him slamming into the defender head first. As everybody said, but that is a typical football play and running backs and tacklers experience those kind of impacts all the time. He suffered a concussion from it though and again, not what was a mild concussion, one where his body goes into what is like a seizure. It looks scary when it happens.

Football is a contact sport. Players are going to play the game the way they always have played it. The have natural instincts to dive for a first down, because they are trying to make a play. Sure, it is up to Tua or any player how they will play the game but man, he's a dad. He's got to take his health and well being seriously. I would not want to be the doctor that clears him to go back onto the field.

My disagreement with your comments was not about the medical portion of your post. I think he’s going to continue to play the game.

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

My disagreement with your comments was not about the medical portion of your post. I think he’s going to continue to play the game.

I understand, Robert. I was frightened by it because of what happened with him last season. He had a severe concussion and then was allowed to play soon after it and was severely concussed again. And again he came back to play. This guy is now example number one of how the league is going to handle this stuff. The Tua concussions are different because there is so obviously something wrong with him when he goes down. Some guys get concussed and you can't even tell but with him, I forget the name of what that seizure is, he displays all the symptoms of severe head trauma when it happens to him.

I don't know why that is, but it is not pretty to watch. I assume, trust, medical science has answers for this. That he can be evaluated for how severe the injury is and if he should risk more of these injuries. Honestly, I can't recall watching a player go through what we've seen Tua go through over the course of two seasons.

It is his life, my guess is the risks have been explained to him and his family. I assume he is now in the concussion protocol and will have to sit out until they deem him healthy enough to play. I think you are right, he is going to want to play. I don't know if anybody can or would talk him out of it.

I am just thinking, imagine being the doctor that clears him and he steps back on the field and it happens again. Maybe the seizure is even more severe, because it likely would be, and a national TV audience is watching this. People are going to question how he was let back onto the field and they are going to blame people and top of the list will be the doctor or doctors that clear him.

 

[Robert Crawford]

It’s his decision after the medical people render their decision. I suspect more than one medical doctor will be involved with this decision.

 

[Malcolm R]

I don't know that they can or would ban Tua from returning. It's his choice. They said his family tried to convince him to retire after the last one, when he had a similar post-contact reaction/seizure. He decided to return and supposedly made changes to the way he plays to better protect himself.

It's not the doctor's role or responsibility to prevent him from doing what he wants to do. All they can do is explain the possible future consequences if he continues down the same road. Nothing a doctor says is mandatory, unless perhaps you are posing a danger to others. But doctors cannot protect you from yourself.

 

[Robert Crawford]

I don't know that they can or would ban Tua from returning. It's his choice. They said his family tried to convince him to retire after the last one, when he had a similar post-contact reaction/seizure. He decided to return and supposedly made changes to the way he plays to better protect himself.

It's not the doctor's role or responsibility to prevent him from doing what he wants to do. All they can do is explain the possible future consequences if he continues down the same road. Nothing a doctor says is mandatory, unless perhaps you are posing a danger to others. But doctors cannot protect you from yourself.

There are going to be more than one medical opinion. I suspect at least 3-4 of such opinions.

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

I don't know that they can or would ban Tua from returning. It's his choice. They said his family tried to convince him to retire after the last one, when he had a similar post-contact reaction/seizure. He decided to return and supposedly made changes to the way he plays to better protect himself.

It's not the doctor's role or responsibility to prevent him from doing what he wants to do. All they can do is explain the possible future consequences if he continues down the same road. Nothing a doctor says is mandatory, unless perhaps you are posing a danger to others. But doctors cannot protect you from yourself.

I agree doctors essentially advise you. You should do this or that or have this surgery or try this therapy. I would not blame the doctors but in this day and age, people will go for a scapegoat and say the doctors should never have cleared him to play.

As an aside, reading about it this morning and looking at the play again, it was said that it was not the collision with the defender that concussed him. Looking at the play again that collision does not look bad. Tua twists a bit and his head kind of just hits Hamlin's stomach. What they are claiming caused the concussion is Tua then goes to the ground and the back of his head hits the ground and bounces off of it. I believe that was the cause of one or both of his concussions last season, that he bounced his head off the turf in the same way.

It does not look to me like it took much to concuss him again. Again, I don't want to play doctor here, but he looks like he is just more susceptible to concussions than others are. Or more impacted by them. I don't know, but what happens to him does not at all look like what happens to most others.