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Congrats to Phillies reliever Craig Kimbrel- the 8th player to reach the 400 save milestone. Seems to me he still has to do more to be a hall of fame reliever.
 

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Congratulations to Kimbrel, he really is a nice guy IMO, but the Dodgers would've won more than 111 games last year if he hadn't been the closer. Heh!
 

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First to 1 wins?

Odd day in MLB -- 1st so few games on Memorial day which certainly has happened a lot in recent years

Guardians 5-0 Orioles (5 hitter)
Rangers 5-0 Tigers (5 hitter) -- are the Rangers finally for real again like the early 2010's?
Cubs 1-0 Rays (1 hitter CGSO)

Royals 7 - 0 Cardinals (2 hitter now final)

Twins 3-0 Astros (1 hitter through 3 -- obviously early)

Colorado did finally scored on Arizona after giving up 5 in the bottom 1st to break the streak -- 5-4 still hitting
 
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First to 1 wins?

Odd day in MLB -- 1st so few games on Memorial day which certainly has happened a lot in recent years

Guardians 5-0 Orioles (5 hitter)
Rangers 5-0 Tigers (5 hitter) -- are the Rangers finally for real again like the early 2010's?
Cubs 1-0 Rays (1 hitter CGSO)

Royals 7 - 0 Cardinals (2 hitter top 9th)

Twins 3-0 Astros (1 hitter through 3 -- obviously early)

Colorado did finally scored on Arizona after giving up 5 in the bottom 1st to break the streak -- 5-4 still hitting
The Cubs complete game- probably the team’s first this season. A shame that analytics and pitch count paranoia has made the complete game obsolete.
 

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One more time with emphasis -- I LOVE the Pitch Clock and Batters Clock.

Don't really so much like the pickoff rules
Base Size seems meaningless so far -- I still will they'd put a Mirror Base outside the 1B foul line that only the runner could use and 100% enforce the runners lane
 

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I think there were 11 games, so 22 of 30 teams were playing. Isn't there a day or two every week that a handful of teams have off/travel days?

I hadn't really paid (enough) attention specifically to Memorial Day games in the past, but usually, I'd think they try to schedule as many games as possible for major holidays w/ plenty of day games since they know most people will have the day off... although afternoon BBQ and other specific (daytime) festivities and/or relevant observances seem to be big for Memorial Day, so... Certainly, I imagine they would wanna avoid a day game in DC, if nothing else -- and the Nats did actually play a night game in LA yesterday.

But also, historically, I seem to recall Monday isn't usually a big off day for most weeks of the season... probably because most Sunday games are day games, which allow most teams to travel more easily for a new series the next day, so less need for Monday to be an off day (on top of the frequency of Monday holidays).

My understanding is changes in recent years/decade-or-so (like realignment, increased interleague play, the new balanced scheduling, etc) have been causing scheduling quirks/problems that are yielding certain such changes/oddities, including having more 2-game series and even odder cases (like a 2-game series followed by 2 straight off-days for the Royals and Cardinals this week... that was pointed out by a recent Cardinals broadcast I just happened to check, IIRC).

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My understanding is changes in recent years/decade-or-so (like realignment, increased interleague play, the new balanced scheduling, etc) have been causing scheduling quirks/problems that are yielding certain such changes/oddities, including having more 2-game series and even odder cases (like a 2-game series followed by 2 straight off-days for the Royals and Cardinals this week... that was pointed out by a recent Cardinals broadcast I just happened to check, IIRC).
I think teams can also agree to other things like double-headers to gain extra off days. Red Sox are playing a double-header this weekend with Tampa, which I'd heard was scheduled at the teams' request to gain an extra off day in the schedule.
 

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But also, historically, I seem to recall Monday isn't usually a big off day for most weeks of the season... probably because most Sunday games are day games, which allow most teams to travel more easily for a new series the next day, so less need for Monday to be an off day (on top of the frequency of Monday holidays).

The Braves played the ESPN Sunday night game and then had to travel across country to Oakland for a game starting about 24 hours later and were obviously quite tired out, OAK 7, ATL 2.

Certainly, I imagine they would wanna avoid a day game in DC, if nothing else -- and the Nats did actually play a night game in LA yesterday.
It was a night game because the Dodgers played the Rays on Sunday 11:30am ET (TB 11, LAD 10) and had a bit better turnaround than ATL did, starting at 6:00pm PT.

Does anyone know how much extra flying/traveling time there is for teams with the balanced scheduling this season? It's the one change that isn't getting as much attention as the other rule changes.
 

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I think teams can also agree to other things like double-headers to gain extra off days. Red Sox are playing a double-header this weekend with Tampa, which I'd heard was scheduled at the teams' request to gain an extra off day in the schedule.

Sure, but some of these oddities like the 2 straight off-days following 2-game series don't seem likely requests by those teams. The broadcasters clearly noted how odd that was and couldn't understand/figure why that happened. Otherwise, I wouldn't have noticed.

Anyway, there's nothing particularly odd about scheduled double-headers -- there's been a long history of that AFAIK. And gaining off-days scattered throughout the season, particularly to help w/ traveling (while also giving some needed rest) makes perfect sense, but 2-straight off-days (following a 2-game series that also ends a 19-straight-playing-day stretch for the Cardinals no less) in a 162-game schedule? That seems extremely rare... and maybe even a first. Probably woulda made more sense to try to sandwich a series between those 2 off-days (or in this case, let the Cardinals have that extra off-day break up that 19-game stretch sooner instead).

But ok, apparently, the Cardinals did sorta request this oddity... probably to their own (unrealized-at-the-time) detriment...


MLB probably simply should've tried better to schedule that extra off-day so the Cardinals wouldn't have to play such a long stretch w/out rest -- even the original schedule before that request would've had the Cardinals play 17 straight days. LOL! No wonder their otherwise pretty loaded (if underperforming) offense struggled to get on base at all yesterday against one of the clearly worst pitching teams in the league -- probably only the A's pitching are worse than KC, if we discount the killer Coors effect (making the Rockies pitching seem so bad), and KC's pitching has been that bad for at least 5 years (and counting) now, LOL. Heck! Makes me wonder if the Cardinals management didn't also think maybe it could be fine enough to extend that stretch to face dem (otherwise) expectedly awful Royals to gain Memorial Day attendance, but no doubt, they weren't expecting to be in their current hole and then getting that close to being no-hit by dem Royals, LOL! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

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About the Braves playing so quickly after flying to the west coast- I thought there were union rules that prevented this scheduling. I guess not. The Braves got hosed.
 

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About the Braves playing so quickly after flying to the west coast- I thought there were union rules that prevented this scheduling. I guess not. The Braves got hosed.
There may have been at one point then at some point that changed to where I think there is a rule flying west to east, but not necessarily east to west -- esp day game after day game, or day game after night game (latter may be unidirectional)

When the team with one of the best records gets trounced by a team having a literally historically bad season then something is wrong. I think the A's have either the 1st or 2nd WORST winning percentage since 1900 for the first 1/3 (generally around Memorial Day) of the season. They are well behind even the 1962 Mets 120 loss season and 2003 Tigers approaching the miserably awful Cleveland Spiders (WP 0.130) and a couple other of those 1880-1890 teams that weren't even fielding what would be considered AA teams in the 21st century. Many books have essentially called the semi-pro to be nice.
 

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There may have been at one point then at some point that changed to where I think there is a rule flying west to east, but not necessarily east to west -- esp day game after day game, or day game after night game (latter may be unidirectional)

When the team with one of the best records gets trounced by a team having a literally historically bad season then something is wrong. I think the A's have either the 1st or 2nd WORST winning percentage since 1900 for the first 1/3 of the season. They are well behind even the 1962 Mets 120 loss season and 2003 Tigers approaching the miserably awful Cleveland Spiders (WP 0.130) and a couple other of those 1880-1890 teams that weren't even fielding what would be considered AA teams in the 21st century. Many books have essentially called the semi-pro to be nice.
What’s crazy about the 2003 Tigers 119 loss season- if memory serves, they won 5 of their last 6 to avoid the 1962 Mets 120 losses. I think the 1935 Boston Braves had the worst season winning percentage since 1900.

I used to work with a guy whose cousin was on that Tigers team- outfielder Bobby Higginson. Decent player for a few years.
 

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Philly A's wins that battle ( I sense a pattern)​

I think some other filtered records for futility
Mets have the most losses
Tigers fewest wins in a 162 season

Entering last night A's were 10-45 (0.181) and on a major losing streak even inside a bad season with a minus 200 run differential.

Modern era (1901–present)​


SeasonFranchiseLeagueWinsLossesPct.GB
1916Philadelphia AthleticsAL36117.23554½
1935Boston BravesNL38115.24861½
1962New York MetsNL40120.25060½
1904Washington SenatorsAL38113.25255½
1919Philadelphia AthleticsAL36104.25752
2003Detroit TigersAL43119.26547
1952Pittsburgh PiratesNL42112.27354½
1909Washington SenatorsAL42110.27656
1942Philadelphia PhilliesNL42109.27862½
1939St. Louis BrownsAL43111.27964½
1932Boston Red SoxAL43111.27964
1941Philadelphia PhilliesNL43111.27957
1915Philadelphia AthleticsAL43109.28358½
1928Philadelphia PhilliesNL43109.28351
2018Baltimore OriolesAL47115.29061
2019Detroit TigersAL47114.29154
1911Boston RustlersNL44107.29154
1909Boston DovesNL45108.29465½
1911St. Louis BrownsAL45107.29656½
1939Philadelphia PhilliesNL45106.29850½
1937St. Louis BrownsAL46108.29956
1945Philadelphia PhilliesNL46108.29952
1938Philadelphia PhilliesNL45105.30043
 

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Philly A's wins that battle ( I sense a pattern)​

I think some other filtered records for futility
Mets have the most losses
Tigers fewest wins in a 162 season

Entering last night A's were 10-45 (0.181) and on a major losing streak even inside a bad season with a minus 200 run differential.

Modern era (1901–present)​


SeasonFranchiseLeagueWinsLossesPct.GB
1916Philadelphia AthleticsAL36117.23554½
1935Boston BravesNL38115.24861½
1962New York MetsNL40120.25060½
1904Washington SenatorsAL38113.25255½
1919Philadelphia AthleticsAL36104.25752
2003Detroit TigersAL43119.26547
1952Pittsburgh PiratesNL42112.27354½
1909Washington SenatorsAL42110.27656
1942Philadelphia PhilliesNL42109.27862½
1939St. Louis BrownsAL43111.27964½
1932Boston Red SoxAL43111.27964
1941Philadelphia PhilliesNL43111.27957
1915Philadelphia AthleticsAL43109.28358½
1928Philadelphia PhilliesNL43109.28351
2018Baltimore OriolesAL47115.29061
2019Detroit TigersAL47114.29154
1911Boston RustlersNL44107.29154
1909Boston DovesNL45108.29465½
1911St. Louis BrownsAL45107.29656½
1939Philadelphia PhilliesNL45106.29850½
1937St. Louis BrownsAL46108.29956
1945Philadelphia PhilliesNL46108.29952
1938Philadelphia PhilliesNL45105.30043

But those are, of course, not remotely the same A's, LOL ;) -- yeah, I'm sure you knew that already. :D

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I've been paying more attention to the Phillies so far because I keep hearing about Trea Turner and that the fans have been booing him. I wish the Dodgers had tried to keep him. (He says the Dodgers never pursued it, really.) Trea had such a good performance in the WBC, too, you wonder what's going on with him. Although he turned down more money with the Padres, but they're just stumbling along so far.

I think some of the scheduling idiosyncrasies this year are because there's fewer 4 game series with teams within your division because of the balanced schedule.
 

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The Dodgers starting rotation is in a shambles. Noah Syndergaard isn't getting any better, MIchaell Grove's still untested, Julio Urias is out, Dustin May is out, Tony Gonsolin is out, but I believe is returning tomorrow. Clayton Kershaw had some rough outings until Friday. So the Dodgers had to call up a pitcher on 5/23 to pitch against the Braves in Atlanta. It was 24 year old Bobby Miller and he allowed 1 run in 5 innings pitched; 6-1. His 2nd outing in Washington he allowed 1 run in 6 innings; 8-1. Pitching still being a problem he got slated to pitch against the Yankees yesterday, his first start in LA. You don't see a rookie starting pitcher playing teams like the Braves and Yankees in their first three starts unless it's out of necessity! So what happened? He pitched 6 scoreless innings against the Yanks, struck out 7 of them, on Sunday! Then our relievers let us down afterwords. And Aaron Judge owes us for the fence he busted on Saturday.

This kid, so far, has felt akin to Joe Hardy appearing out of nowhere. :)
 

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