2022-2023 NFL Season (1 Viewer)

[Robert Crawford]

Taken from a NY Post article that sums up that early game gamble pretty well.

Or maybe Daboll just realized that in order for the NFC’s No. 6 seed to upset the No. 1 seed — and for the Giants to beat the Eagles for just the seventh time in 31 tries — he needed some craziness to overcome a significant talent disparity.

 

[Jeffrey D]

Taken from a NY Post article that sums up that early game gamble pretty well.

I just read that the Giants haven’t won in Philly since 2013. Strange- it seems that most of their matchups are close games.

 

[Jeffrey D]

The NFL Network is replaying last night’s game. Not that this play would have mattered, but Daboll let something go that he should have challenged- down 14, and on a 3rd down, Jones completed a pass that the receiver appeared to catch right at the first down yellow line (their own 19). The refs spotted the catch about a yard shy. Why didn’t Daboll throw the red flag? SMH.

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

Yes he must have thought his team had nothing to lose, so it’s balls to the wall.
Interesting that he decided to not go for a 4th and 6 later on in the game.

I think this was his attitude exactly. He knew he took the team further than anyone would have guessed and won a playoff game. So, they were just on bonus time at that point. You slug it out and maybe you are close enough at the end that getting a FG can win it for you. Didn't happen but that was a great season for the Giants and they do seem to have found a high quality head coach.

 

[Scott Merryfield]

The NFL Network is replaying last night’s game. Not that this play would have mattered, but Daboll let something go that he should have challenged- down 14, and on a 3rd down, Jones completed a pass that the receiver appeared to catch right at the first down yellow line (their own 19). The refs spotted the catch about a yard shy. Why didn’t Daboll throw the red flag? SMH.

It was actually a good spot. The receiver juggled the ball, which negated the forward progress. The play was discussed with Fox's studio referee, who stated the rule.

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

So much for Danny Jones getting 40-50M per year. The Giants Brass still has a bunch of work to do. Not nearly enough talent to be competitive against teams like the Eagles.

As a Giants fan would you have wanted that kind of commitment to Jones? I mean, I wouldn't. He had his best season with Daboll but he's not a great passer. He's very mediocre or worse. You've got Daboll, you know he can develop a QB, I would want someone else. They won't draft high in this draft so I would probably start looking at what QBs are on the board on day two or beyond. If he likes someone and thinks he can develop them, they should draft a QB.

I don't know if they try to keep Jones while a rookie sits or they draft a guy and bring in another veteran for a rookie to sit behind. The veteran QB market does not exactly seem to match-up with what they might want. You've got Brady, Rodgers (maybe), Baker Mayfield, Carson Wentz, Jimmy Garoppolo, Derek Carr, as likely the biggest names and Jones himself. I read that if the Giants cut Jones loose, he probably will get picked up and compete to start for another team.

 

[Robert Crawford]

As a Giants fan would you have wanted that kind of commitment to Jones?

Hell no!

 

[Jeffrey D]

It was actually a good spot. The receiver juggled the ball, which negated the forward progress. The play was discussed with Fox's studio referee, who stated the rule.

Ah- I guessed I missed the explanation, and I didn’t see the juggle. Thanks.

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

I think Hendon Hooker is the mystery man of the 2023 draft among the QBs because he was listed as a top prospect, first round pick. He's got all of the physical attributes you want, size, arm, and he won games. His team beat Stroud's team.

He likely could have been a top 5 pick. Now, with his injury, he has dropped into day two or beyond in the draft. He has two negatives against him that would cause NFL people to pass on him and neither has anything to do with his talent. First, obviously, the injury being the dreaded non-contact injury. This will worry teams that he may be injury prone. It could have been a freak thing though, or something that occurred because of some sort of previous hits he took and then in that moment, boom, it happened. The second thing teams don't like is his age, 25, so he is older than they like and this also means if he signs a 5 year rookie deal, he will be 30 at the end of his first contract.

Fine, but if he wins games and is a great player, what will that matter. Plus these teams usually have to get the QB on the team and see how he develops. Hooker now has the chance to be lucky and go to a better team rather than getting taken by someone like the Texans or Colts. Since he has dropped, now a lot of teams may grab him just to get him on the roster.

 

[Jeffrey D]

I think Hendon Hooker is the mystery man of the 2023 draft among the QBs because he was listed as a top prospect, first round pick. He's got all of the physical attributes you want, size, arm, and he won games. His team beat Stroud's team.

He likely could have been a top 5 pick. Now, with his injury, he has dropped into day two or beyond in the draft. He has two negatives against him that would cause NFL people to pass on him and neither has anything to do with his talent. First, obviously, the injury being the dreaded non-contact injury. This will worry teams that he may be injury prone. It could have been a freak thing though, or something that occurred because of some sort of previous hits he took and then in that moment, boom, it happened. The second thing teams don't like is his age, 25, so he is older than they like and this also means if he signs a 5 year rookie deal, he will be 30 at the end of his first contract.

Fine, but if he wins games and is a great player, what will that matter. Plus these teams usually have to get the QB on the team and see how he develops. Hooker now has the chance to be lucky and go to a better team rather than getting taken by someone like the Texans or Colts. Since he has dropped, now a lot of teams may grab him just to get him on the roster.

Someone affiliated with the NFL Network (Daniel Jeremiah) put out a mock draft. The first QB to be selected, according to him, is Alabama QB Bryce Young (#2- Texans). Colts at #4 pick KY QB Will Levis. Panthers at #9 pick Ohio State QB C J Stroud.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Hell no!

Just to be clear, I want Jones back, but not at 40-50M per year.

 

[Jeffrey D]

Just to be clear, I want Jones back, but not at 40-50M per year.

Will Jones accept $30-35, and for just a couple of years?

 

[Robert Crawford]

Will Jones accept $30-35, and for just a couple of years?

I don't know as the free agent market will have to play out first.

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

Someone affiliated with the NFL Network put out a mock draft. The first QB to be selected, according to him, is Alabama QB Bryce Young (#2- Texans).

There will supposedly be 3 QBs drafted in the top ten and yes, the Texans are rumored to be most interested in Young. The Colts are said to be locked in on Will Levis and the Panthers will supposedly be taking CJ Stroud if he is there when they pick at 9. The 4th QB that could go in the top ten is Anthony Richardson, likely to the Raiders. He's 6'4" and 235 and gets compared to Cam Newton. He is a project, raw, would need to be developed but he has everything they want in an NFL QB in terms of physical traits, the ability to run, and a big arm. I think his questions revolve around can he process and see the field like a top QB. He's the guy that people first predicted to be a day two or beyond pick but shot up draft boards because people can't ignore what a physical specimen he is.

Young likely will go to the Texans at 2 but the guess now is that the Colts, that do not want to miss out on their guy Will Levis, will trade up to the 1 spot with Chicago and Levis will come off the board first overall. This will be one of those odd questioned trades if it happens because Levis is the other guy that rocketed up draft boards even though he did not have a great season. However, the Colts really want him and with the Texans in front of them, also needing a QB, they probably do make the trade with Chicago. The Bears need a lot of help and can still get a great player at 4 so, they will take that trade all day long.

So, the most popular guessing right now is this is the order QBs come off the board:

1. (Trade with Chicago) Colts take Levis
2. Texans take Young
7. Raiders take Richardson (of the rookies this guy seems to be McDaniels preference)
9. Panthers take Stroud

Now, if Davis gets his way and they sign a Brady or Rodgers before the draft, I don't think the Raiders will draft a QB at 7. I think the Colts and Bears will make that trade because the Colts have been pretty open about their love of Levis and I think they want a rookie QB badly and he is the one. I don't think they want to risk anybody else getting him or trading up in front of them.

Now, the only thing you have to consider is the game of liar's poker being played and if these teams are faking interest in certain QBs right now to force other teams into trades. Which is totally possible.

 

[Jeffrey D]

There will supposedly be 3 QBs drafted in the top ten and yes, the Texans are rumored to be most interested in Young. The Colts are said to be locked in on Will Levis and the Panthers will supposedly be taking CJ Stroud if he is there when they pick at 9. The 4th QB that could go in the top ten is Anthony Richardson, likely to the Raiders. He's 6'4" and 235 and gets compared to Cam Newton. He is a project, raw, would need to be developed but he has everything they want in an NFL QB in terms of physical traits, the ability to run, and a big arm. I think his questions revolve around can he process and see the field like a top QB. He's the guy that people first predicted to be a day two or beyond pick but shot up draft boards because people can't ignore what a physical specimen he is.

Young likely will go to the Texans at 2 but the guess now is that the Colts, that do not want to miss out on their guy Will Levis, will trade up to the 1 spot with Chicago and Levis will come off the board first overall. This will be one of those odd questioned trades if it happens because Levis is the other guy that rocketed up draft boards even though he did not have a great season. However, the Colts really want him and with the Texans in front of them, also needing a QB, they probably do make the trade with Chicago. The Bears need a lot of help and can still get a great player at 4 so, they will take that trade all day long.

So, the most popular guessing right now is this is the order QBs come off the board:

1. (Trade with Chicago) Colts take Levis
2. Texans take Young
7. Raiders take Richardson (of the rookies this guy seems to be McDaniels preference)
9. Panthers take Stroud

Now, if Davis gets his way and they sign a Brady or Rodgers before the draft, I don't think the Raiders will draft a QB at 7. I think the Colts and Bears will make that trade because the Colts have been pretty open about their love of Levis and I think they want a rookie QB badly and he is the one. I don't think they want to risk anybody else getting him or trading up in front of them.

Now, the only thing you have to consider is the game of liar's poker being played and if these teams are faking interest in certain QBs right now to force other teams into trades. Which is totally possible.

Is Levis a #1 talent? I watched him a little in a recent game, and I wasn’t really bowled over by his physical ability.

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

Is Levis a #1 talent? I watched him a little in a recent game, and I wasn’t really bowled over by his physical ability.

Ha, I don't know but reading about him, he is either a solid prospect or this year's Zach Wilson. Some people seem to think his ceiling is to be a Derek Carr type player. All it takes is a team to fall in love with him and he can be a high pick and it seems the Colts have. I have read other teams like him but that could be nonsense to get the Colts to panic select him and to make that trade up to the first pick. Basically, if you don't need a QB you want the Colts to take the guy.

He looks like he has the arm but this past college season was not great for him. I mean, if you want consistently great play, Hendon Hooker played great. Other guys had much better seasons and much better stats. He is 6'3" and 232 so he is the prototypical size for an NFL QB. He can make some throws, he probably made a bunch against guys that could not play in the NFL. Here's a highlight reel:

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

So, in that reel, Levis makes some good throws, Not throws like the first one they show because he throws to a guy that is wide open and every QB in the NFL including back-ups should be able to make that throw. He does make some good tight window throws (against Georgia that's good because he is playing against guys that will make it into the NFL). He also shows he has the arm to get the ball downfield. He also shows off some touch throws. It's a highlight reel, so his ball placement in it is pretty good. He seems to see guys in traffic and delivers the ball to them where it needs to be. So, there is stuff to like there. You do have to account for the fact that the tight window throws get tougher in the NFL, the touch throws do as well because everyone on defense is fast, so a touch throw in college might be a pick in the NFL.

Then you have to account for he is going to the Colts and we don't know who will be coaching him there yet. So, I don't know, he looks like an interesting prospect, I will give him that and he looks like he can deliver the ball better than Zach Wilson.

 

[Scott Merryfield]

I think Hendon Hooker is the mystery man of the 2023 draft among the QBs because he was listed as a top prospect, first round pick. He's got all of the physical attributes you want, size, arm, and he won games. His team beat Stroud's team.

I think you mean Young's team. Tennessee didn't play Ohio State.

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

I think you mean Young's team. Tennessee didn't play Ohio State.

You are correct.

 

[Robert Crawford]

The most impressive college QB I saw in 2022, can't even be drafted until next year's draft.