2020-2021 NFL Season

Which team will win more games and have the most success this season?

  • New England Patriots

    Votes: 5 55.6%
  • Tampa Bay Buccaneers

    Votes: 4 44.4%

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Scott Merryfield

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The Giants are going to be awful this year because their offensive line really sucks. If you can't run the ball or protect the QB then there will be years like this season. Also, Jones needs to make better decisions with the ball, but again, his offensive line is horrendous.
Yeah, the Giants looked pretty rough once the Steelers shook off the rust on Monday Night. Jones made a horrible decision throwing an interception in the red zone. The offensive line had trouble protecting the QB, and there was no running room for Barkley.
 

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Yeah, the Giants looked pretty rough once the Steelers shook off the rust on Monday Night. Jones made a horrible decision throwing an interception in the red zone. The offensive line had trouble protecting the QB, and there was no running room for Barkley.
IMO, the Giants looked much better than I expected. With that said and with their 2020 schedule, I don't expect them to win more than 4-5 games. They have too many holes on that roster especially when it comes to their big men upfront. Also, I hope they fire Gettleman as GM and get somebody in there with some fresh ideas on how to compete in today's NFL.

I expect young QBs to make mistakes especially without having any preseason games to work on your craft as far as the speed of the game. Practice is one thing with your teammates, but the speed of an actual game is much quicker. Jones will learn to get the ball out quicker when you're playing against fast pass rushers in the Red Zone.

As to the offensive line that was a horror show. The right side of that line absolutely stinks. The left side has some potential with a high pick first rounder at left tackle. It's no wonder why Barkley couldn't get going, he had Steelers in the backfield every time he touched the ball. Even with the two picks by Jones, I thought he did well by not fumbling the ball like he did last year in his rookie season. Again, that offensive line stinks and I hope it doesn't get him or Barkley killed this season.
 

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IMO, the Giants looked much better than I expected. With that said and with their 2020 schedule, I don't expect them to win more than 4-5 games. They have too many holes on that roster especially when it comes to their big men upfront. Also, I hope they fire Gettleman as GM and get somebody in there with some fresh ideas on how to compete in today's NFL.

I expect young QBs to make mistakes especially without having any preseason games to work on your craft as far as the speed of the game. Practice is one thing with your teammates, but the speed of an actual game is much quicker. Jones will learn to get the ball out quicker when you're playing against fast pass rushers in the Red Zone.

As to the offensive line that was a horror show. The right side of that line absolutely stinks. The left side has some potential with a high pick first rounder at left tackle. It's no wonder why Barkley couldn't get going, he had Steelers in the backfield every time he touched the ball. Even with the two picks by Jones, I thought he did well by not fumbling the ball like he did last year in his rookie season. Again, that offensive line stinks and I hope it doesn't get him or Barkley killed this season.
The Giants one wide receiver, Sterling, looked pretty good. Engram at tight end, though, just doesn't look like a former 1st round draft pick. He really struggles to hang onto the ball. He reminds me of former Lions 1st round pick (and current Steeler) Eric Ebron, who has bad hands, too.

Pittsburgh's offense looked stuck in the mud for most of the first half. Once they got going, though, the game wasn't close at all. If Roethlisberger can stay healthy, I think the team will make things interesting for Baltimore in the AFC North. They have a lot of talent at the offensive skills positions, and the defense is back up to Pittsburgh standards after a few rough seasons. Their offensive line may be the biggest weakness -- they lost their starting right tackle for the season on MNF. Of course, if Big Ben gets hurt again they are screwed, as the backup QB situation is just as bad as last season. I do not understand why they didn't address that in the off season.
 

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The Giants one wide receiver, Sterling, looked pretty good. Engram at tight end, though, just doesn't look like a former 1st round draft pick. He really struggles to hang onto the ball. He reminds me of former Lions 1st round pick (and current Steeler) Eric Ebron, who has bad hands, too.

Pittsburgh's offense looked stuck in the mud for most of the first half. Once they got going, though, the game wasn't close at all. If Roethlisberger can stay healthy, I think the team will make things interesting for Baltimore in the AFC North. They have a lot of talent at the offensive skills positions, and the defense is back up to Pittsburgh standards after a few rough seasons. Their offensive line may be the biggest weakness -- they lost their starting right tackle for the season on MNF. Of course, if Big Ben gets hurt again they are screwed, as the backup QB situation is just as bad as last season. I do not understand why they didn't address that in the off season.
The Giants receivers Sterling Shepard and Darius Slayton are good. Engram on the other hand, looked awful on Monday night.
 
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Disregard my earlier Bronco prediction. They ended the season so well. I see six wins now.
 

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Yeah, the Giants will be lucky to win four games as they lost Barkley for the season. Hopefully, they'll fire Gettleman and hire a younger and better GM to lead their rebuild.
 

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By the way, this is going to be one ugly NFL season as I think there is going to be more injuries than normal which is bad because there are too many injuries as is. This is a type of football season in which you might get lucky with injuries in the first half then lose a significant number of your starters during the second half of the season.
 

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By the way, this is going to be one ugly NFL season as I think there is going to be more injuries than normal which is bad because there are too many injuries as is. This is a type of football season in which you might get lucky with injuries in the first half then lose a significant number of your starters during the second half of the season.
Assuming there’s even a full season. I wouldn’t say that’s a given. If outbreaks start happening this fall and winter, it could all go down the tubes.
 

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Man, the Falcons chocked again.

I love the announcers -- How could this happen? How could you possibly be paid to follow/announce NFL and not know the answer or even be remotely surprised. A: It's the Falcons
There's no way to lose a game like that? A: It's the Falcons
What happened? A: It's the Falcons

I bet a large % of the most bizarre come from ahead impossible to lose games ending in confused losses have involved the Falcons. Somehow the national audience seemed confused in the Super Bowl a couple years ago, but long time Falcons followers/fans were pretty much betting on it late in the 3rd Quarter (literally)

I dislike the Cowboys as much as any NFL team, but what a cool onside kick though almost inconceivably botched by the Falcons
 
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They got a good defense and they made the switch to their rookie QB which probably should have been done from the beginning.
Taylor was injured during pregame, or else he would have started. They sure have Mahomes on his heels.
 

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I tell you what, Tony Romo never shuts up during a game. IMO, he talks too damn much instead of allowing the game to breath a little.
 

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I tell you what, Tony Romo never shuts up during a game. IMO, he talks too damn much instead of allowing the game to breath a little.
I think he's awful. I don't understand why he seems to be so popular. He never shuts up, his voice is incredibly annoying, and he's the personification of "Captain Obvious". People watching are football fans, Tony. Don't talk to us like this is the first game we've ever watched.

Along with the Falcons' woes, the Lions become the first team to lose four games in a row after leading by double digits.
 

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Speaking of the bolts game, I know it happens all the time but I will never understand: if its 3rd and whatever and you are a receiver run your route to whatever, not two yards shy of whatever!

It was a great game until overtime. Two 1 yard runs. They had to throw on 3rd and the Chiefs defended it perfectly, then punt on 4th and 1?! Youre playing the current champs, you know theyre going to score when they get the ball back no matter the field position. Be freaking aggressive.
 

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A great game tonight. I thought the Seahawks blew this game by a terrible 3rd down play call, but they held on by preventing Cam from running in for a score. I really didn't understand that Seahawks 3rd down play when they had the ball and only needed a yard or so for the first down to salt the game away without having to punt the ball back to the Patriots.

By the way, Wilson is one great QB. I wish he was on either of my teams.
 

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Wilson/Pete Carroll reminds me so much of late 2000's Brady/Belichick -- it's just amazing to watch Russell Wilson every week seem to put his team on his back and make that late game winning drive or critical play whenever it's needed. I also have no idea why that 3rd and 1 call was made.

I'll admit Cam Newton shocked me since I spent most of the last 4 years watching Cam struggle in Charlotte to do anything positive -- almost always making a flurry of bad decisions or poor performance anytime the game was close or big prime time games. Since Denver destroyed him in the Super Bowl, he had been just awful -- some of it injury related, but a lot of just awful decision making and insufferable Woe is Me attitude that reminded me so much of Jay Cutler.


Speaking of the bolts game, I know it happens all the time but I will never understand: if its 3rd and whatever and you are a receiver run your route to whatever, not two yards shy of whatever!

It was a great game until overtime. Two 1 yard runs. They had to throw on 3rd and the Chiefs defended it perfectly, then punt on 4th and 1?! Youre playing the current champs, you know theyre going to score when they get the ball back no matter the field position. Be freaking aggressive.
The technique is obviously taught that way since it is rampant from college all the way through the pros -- the DB play right at the 1st down line, the receivers run their route short and hope to be able to make the 2 yards after the catch. I know why they do it, but it's so infuriating/maddening to see it cost teams games over and over -- 100 times worse when it's 4th and 5 and they run a 4 yd route b/c it's open/easy. I think one the ex-Dallas WR was dissecting I think the CeeDee Lamb version last week that ended up in the same situation and even he was exasperated that the receiver seemed to make no effort at all to find the 1st down line before he had the ball in his hands -- 4th and 1, punt, lose game. If you aren't going to go for it on 4th and short, go past the 1st down marker.
 
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Somehow the national audience seemed confused in the Super Bowl a couple years ago, but long time Falcons followers/fans were pretty much betting on it late in the 3rd Quarter (literally)
Exactly. I've always hated the Falcons but, since I currently live in ATL I do somewhat follow them. This trend is most attributable to the current owner, Arthur Blank. He doesn't have the stones to fire a coach who's best attributes are pep talks and figuring out how to lose games that should be impossible to lose. It's great theater for me but it sucks for their true fans.

I tell you what, Tony Romo never shuts up during a game. IMO, he talks too damn much instead of allowing the game to breath a little.
I guess I'm the odd man out because I like Romo as a commentator. Yes, he can be a little chatty but he does know the game and can offer good insight from a QB's perspective.
 

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