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2019 At The Box Office

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Tino, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. Tino

    Tino Executive Producer
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    1 1 Joker (2019) WB $55,000,000 -42.8% 4,374 - $12,574 $192,728,787 $55 2
    2 N The Addams Family (2019) UAR $30,298,000 - 4,007 - $7,561 $30,298,000 - 1
    3 N Gemini Man Par. $20,500,000 - 3,642 - $5,629 $20,500,000 $138 1
    4 2 Abominable Uni. $6,170,000 -48.2% 3,496 -752 $1,765 $47,971,350 $75 3
    5 3 Downton Abbey Focus $4,900,000 -38.7% 3,019 -529 $1,623 $82,687,590 - 4
    6 4 Hustlers STX $3,850,000 -39.8% 2,357 -673 $1,633 $98,015,339 $20 5
    7 6 Judy RAtt. $3,255,353 -29.2% 1,627 +169 $2,001 $14,974,204 - 3
    8 5 It: Chapter Two WB (NL) $3,225,000 -39.4% 2,303 -860 $1,400 $207,135,424 - 6
    9 N Jexi LGF $3,100,000 - 2,332 - $1,329 $3,100,000 - 1
    10 7 Ad Astra Fox $1,947,000 -53.5% 1,678 -1,232 $1,160 $47,035,432 - 4
    11 8 Rambo: Last Blood LGF $1,550,000 -56.9% 1,831 -1,069 $847 $42,910,586 $50 4
    12 12 The Lion King (2019) BV $679,000 -0.9% 1,687 +653 $402 $542,281,701 $260 13
    13 N Parasite (2019) Neon $376,264 - 3 - $125,421 $376,264 - 1
    14 10 Good Boys Uni. $309,000 -65.3% 374 -632 $826 $82,723,810 $20 9
    15 27 Pain and Glory SPC $289,147 +89.4% 23 +19 $12,572 $574,571 - 2
    16 15 The Peanut Butter Falcon RAtt. $278,567 -41.8% 304 -319 $916 $19,513,573 - 10
    17 19 Linda Ronstadt: The Sound of My Voice Greenwich $262,080 -9.6% 168 -36 $1,560 $3,231,298 - 6
    18 13 Angel has Fallen LGF $260,000 -53.1% 288 -543 $903 $68,832,475 $40 8
    19 14 Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw Uni. $182,000 -66.9% 301 -381 $605 $173,532,350 $200 11
    20 22 Toy Story 4 BV $169,000 -27.0% 189 -54 $894 $433,569,980 - 17

    Terrific hold for Joker! Boy was I wrong about the BO on this film.

    Terrible opening for Gemini Man.
     
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  2. Colin Jacobson

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    So with "Joker" such a hit, what's the next comic villain intro story we'll get? :D
     
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  3. Tino

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  4. Message #944 of 1043 Oct 13, 2019
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    Since Gemini Man had a production budget of c. $138 million, even before advertising and overhead, I think we can say it's a box office disappointment.
     
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    HFR may end Ang Lee's career harder than mocap ended Zemeckis'.
     
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    https://variety.com/2019/film/columns/faulty-projection-how-ang-lee-doubled-down-on-his-high-frame-rate-obsession-column-1203368940/
    "Faulty Projection: How Ang Lee Doubled Down on His High-Frame-Rate Obsession (Column)
    By OWEN GLEIBERMAN

    ....Produced by Jerry Bruckheimer, “Gemini Man” is a lumbering sci-fi action thriller that stars Will Smith, as a veteran assassin, acting opposite a glum young digital clone of himself. The project had been kicking around Hollywood for 20 years, but in his Variety review Peter Debruge rightly observed that “judging by the finished product, it was the script that never lived up to the promise of its premise…an awful lot of effort has gone into making an awfully lazy action movie.” With a production budget of $138 million, “Gemini Man” took in just $20 million over the weekend. Unless it does miraculously well in the international marketplace, it’s going to go down as a serious big-studio debacle....

    The second major casualty in all this was James Cameron. I’m not about to judge “Avatar” sequels we haven’t seen yet (and, like most people, I was enthralled by the glowing wizardry of the first “Avatar,” though less so by its functional storyline). But it’s notable that Cameron, after having made “Titanic,” one of the grandest and most emotionally transporting of all modern screen epics, decided, in the wake of its unparalleled success (he was 43 at the time), to basically devote the rest of his life to making “Avatar” films. This strikes me as an artistic choice that’s dismayingly true to the reigning big-screen ideology of our time — wow us, floor us, bedazzle us, theme park us to death, and who cares, really, about all that boring human-interaction stuff? Wake up to the religion of your eyeballs! Strap on those 3D headsets and be born again.

    Ang Lee directing “Gemini Man” and deluding himself into thinking that it’s a good movie strikes me as another example of this. Especially given that the high-frame-rate images, which I do think worked startlingly in “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk,” work pretty badly here. The same you-are-there immediacy is certainly in effect; there are moments when you feel like you’re in the room with Will Smith. But in the action and suspense scenes that are at the film’s core, the effect isn’t more “real” — it’s more fake."
     
  7. Jake Lipson

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    This was one of those extremely rare weekends where I didn't go to the movie theater at all. Nothing new looked interesting to me, and I already saw Joker last weekend. I don't think I have anything for the remainder of October either. Wow.
     
  8. Colin Jacobson

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    I was half-joking, but I do suspect we'll get more movies of this nature given the success of "Joker".

    Catwoman would be a good candidate if we didn't still smell the stench of the Halle Berry movie!
     
  9. Jake Lipson

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    Charting with Dan for this week:

     
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    This one has not done well at the box office. The wikipedia article for it says the production budget was $27 million.

    Lucy in the Sky
    Domestic Total as of Oct. 16, 2019: $203,179
    Distributor: Fox Searchlight Release Date: October 4, 2019
    Genre: Drama Runtime: 2 hrs. 4 min.
    MPAA Rating: R Production Budget: N/A
    Total Lifetime Grosses
    Domestic: $203,179
     
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    It would be one of those films acquired by Disney in the Fox sale, so they probably are not giving it any promotion and just a cursory theatrical release. I'd actually never heard of it until you posted this, though it seems to have a great cast.

    Apparently it's also come under some criticism from former astronauts regarding the plot. So that probably didn't help, either.
     
  12. Jake Lipson

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    Lucy in the Sky is Searchlight, and so far Disney appears to be allowing them to do what they normally do. I don't think the theatrical release was unsupported. I saw the trailer in theaters multiple times over the last few months, and it is playing here even though I'm not in New York or LA. It opened here last weekend following a NY/LA run the week before, but is still only in 221 theaters nationwide.

    Plus, the director is Noah Hawley, who works frequently with FX (see: Fargo, Legion), which is also now a part of the Disney corporate family. So they'd want to keep him happy.

    I think the problem is that it's an adult-skewing drama with bad reviews, and adults tend to pay more attention to reviews than younger audiences. The reviews clearly diminished its limited release opening weekend, and once that happened, their confidence in expanding it wide was probably shaken.
     
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    I feel like they totally blew it on that one, right down to the initial filmmaking choices.

    This is based on a true story that made headlines nationwide cause this woman was so pissed that her husband cheated, that she put on an adult diaper so that she didn’t have to stop on the way during the long drive to confront the mistress. And they apparently eliminated that from the film and certainly from the marketing, and now it’s just another indie drama with nothing to distinguish it.

    It would be like doing a Lorena Bobbitt film without the knife, or a Tonya Harding film without the clubbing.

    Don’t understand why you’d make a movie based on a well publicized incident with good audience recognition and then cut out the one part of the story that would make an audience take notice.
     
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    1 N Maleficent: Mistress of Evil BV $36,000,000 - 3,790 - $9,499 $36,000,000 - 1
    2 1 Joker (2019) WB $29,205,000 -47.7% 4,090 -284 $7,141 $247,229,004 $55 3
    3 N Zombieland 2: Double Tap Sony $26,725,000 - 3,468 - $7,706 $26,725,000 $42 1
    4 2 The Addams Family (2019) UAR $16,057,007 -47.0% 4,102 +95 $3,914 $56,816,034 - 2
    5 3 Gemini Man Par. $8,500,000 -58.6% 3,642 - $2,334 $36,516,543 $138 2
    6 4 Abominable Uni. $3,500,000 -42.4% 2,647 -849 $1,322 $53,915,070 $75 4
    7 5 Downton Abbey Focus $3,080,000 -36.9% 2,258 -761 $1,364 $88,612,460 - 5
    8 7 Judy RAtt. $2,055,975 -36.4% 1,418 -209 $1,450 $19,018,113 - 4
    9 6 Hustlers STX $2,050,000 -47.3% 1,575 -782 $1,302 $101,871,912 $20 6
    10 8 It: Chapter Two WB (NL) $1,505,000 -52.0% 1,528 -775 $985 $209,659,518 - 7
    11 15 Parasite (2019) Neon $1,241,334 +223.1% 33 +30 $37,616 $1,821,976 - 2
    12 9 Jexi LGF $1,215,000 -60.9% 2,332 - $521 $5,734,684 - 2
    13 10 Ad Astra Fox $838,000 -55.4% 796 -882 $1,053 $48,702,771 - 5
    14 11 Rambo: Last Blood LGF $560,000 -62.7% 930 -901 $602 $44,082,166 $50 5
    15 21 Pain and Glory SPC $463,532 +70.5% 67 +44 $6,918 $1,130,373 - 3
    16 N The Lighthouse A24 $419,764 - 8 - $52,471 $419,764 - 1
    17 N Jojo Rabbit FoxS $350,000 - 5 - $70,000 $350,000 - 1
    18 13 The Lion King (2019) BV $300,000 -56.2% 325 -1,362 $923 $542,983,628 $260 14
    19 20 The Peanut Butter Falcon RAtt. $225,950 -18.7% 248 -56 $911 $19,879,110 - 11
    20 23 Linda Ronstadt: The Sound of My Voice Greenwich $188,253 -8.6% 147 -21 $1,281 $3,501,004 - 7
     
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    Woof - that's barely half the opening of the original "Maleficent". Not good!
     
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    I liked it, but the domestic box office for Maleficent: Mistress of Evil does seem weak in comparison to its $185 million dollar production budget. A lot of that money ended up on the screen though, as the movie's sets, costumes, and special effects are all quite deluxe.

    The International numbers look better....

    https://variety.com/2019/film/news/maleficent-mistress-of-evil-international-box-office-opening-weekend-1203376601/

    "...Though Disney’s “Maleficent: Mistress of Evilstumbled at the domestic box office, the Angelina Jolie-led sequel enjoyed a far stronger start overseas. The follow-up to 2014’s fantasy adventure inspired by the “Sleeping Beauty” villain took off with $117 million from 56 international markets."
     
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    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-bust-gemini-man-faces-75-million-loss-1247292

    "Box Office Bust: 'Gemini Man' Faces $75 Million Loss
    ....The pic — which features Smith as an elite assassin who faces off against his younger self — cost roughly $140 million to produce after tax rebates and incentives, in addition to a $100 million-plus marketing spend.

    Leading up to its release, Gemini Man sparked headlines across the globe for Lee's use of groundbreaking de-aging and high frame rate technology, but Paramount and Skydance knew they were in trouble in late September when reviews started pouring in and prerelease tracking stalled. While praising the film's technological prowess, critics slammed the story, resulting in a career-worst Rotten Tomatoes score of 25 percent for Lee...."

     
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    Good concept, poorly executed. More proof that the Game Of Throne showrunner’s talent does not lie with original creations? (He wrote the script.)

    The movie itself was a second rate 90s era Jerry Simpson throwback. It was too long for what little was there.

    I’m not opposed to Lee’s HFR experimentation but the exhibition technology isn’t there yet. I saw Billy Lynn at the intended 120fps at 4K resolution and while it was unique and not to everyone’s taste, it worked. I saw Gemini at 120fps at 2K and, well, it just didn’t work. Maybe it turns out that resolution doesn’t matter as much at a standard 24fps, but with the higher frame rate, you need the extra detail and clarity or the illusion doesn’t work. I so much wanted to be able to give the film an “A,” but it wasn’t even close.
     
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    I think the biggest problem Disney had was that nobody was really looking for a Malificent sequel, except maybe Angelina Jolie.

    Benioff was one of many, many hands that touched that script over the past 12 years so I don't know that the blame for the script falls on any one writer.

    I think the biggest problem faced by theatrical these days is that it's gotten pretty expensive to go out the movies. If you're a family of four, the tickets will cost you $56 in Albany, and then another $40 or $50 for food. If you're a family on a fixed income, spending over $100 to go out means you're going to hold out for a "sure thing", and that means an established brand like Marvel or Star Wars.
     
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    22 years actually. And the original script was terrific. Along with Lee’s direction, Benioff and Ray imo ruined it. They were the last to work on it after as you said many many hands rewrote it.

    Its too bad as the original story was great and in the hands of a better suited director and different lead actor ( Harrison Ford, Mel Gibson and others were considered) the film could have been a blockbuster.
     

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