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2019 At The Box Office

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Tino, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. Tino

    Tino Executive Producer
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    Yeah but.....


    Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation
    Rank Title (click to view) Studio Adjusted Gross Unadjusted Gross Release
    1 Spider-Man Sony $626,057,600 $403,706,375 5/3/02
    2 Spider-Man 2 Sony $542,030,300 $373,585,825 6/30/04
    3 Spider-Man 3 Sony $440,717,700 $336,530,303 5/4/07
    4 Spider-Man: Far from Home Sony $373,357,800 $373,357,780 7/2/19
    5 Spider-Man: Homecoming Sony $337,137,900 $334,201,140 7/7/17
    6 The Amazing Spider-Man Sony $303,438,200 $262,030,663 7/3/12
    7 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Sony $219,513,500 $202,853,933 5/2/14
    8 Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse Sony $190,052,300 $190,241,310 12/14/18
    TOTAL: $3,032,305,300 $2,476,507,329 -
    AVERAGE: $379,038,200 $309,563,416 -
    ;)
     
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  2. Adam Lenhardt

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    The Raimi trilogy came out in the pre-streaming era, though.
     
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  3. Jake Lipson

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    Yeah. You can't account for changes in the culture (like the advent of streaming as @Adam Lenhardt noted) with inflation-adjusted numbers, because there's no way to actually know if the older films would actually make the same amount of money if released today.

    That's why I noted in my post that it was passing the unadjusted number.

    As we've discussed many times before in this thread, unadjusted raw numbers paint one part of the picture and adjusted numbers paint another part of the picture. There is no one perfect way to compare box office for films released in different times. The fact that Far From Home is about to eclipse the unadjusted gross of Spider-Man 2 is still a notable achievement.
     
  4. Malcolm R

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    They'd better make it while they can, as next year's slate is considerably weaker. I'm not sure any of these will even sniff the Billion mark:

    • Onward Buena Vista 3/6/20
    • Mulan (2020) Buena Vista 3/27/20
    • Black Widow (2020) Buena Vista 5/1/20
    • Artemis Fowl Buena Vista 5/29/20
    • Soul Buena Vista 6/19/20
    • Jungle Cruise Buena Vista 7/24/20
    • The One and Only Ivan Buena Vista 8/14/20
    • The Eternals Buena Vista 11/6/20
    • Untitled Disney Animation (3D) Buena Vista 11/25/20
    • Cruella Buena Vista 12/23/20
    List from BO Mojo.
     
  5. Jake Lipson

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    Yeah, I mentioned the same thing a few pages ago. I think they are going to regret stacking so many huge titles in one year because even though this year has been massive, next year they are almost certainly headed for a very steep year-over-year decline. There are several titles on that list which will probably do well (Onward and Soul are Pixar titles, plus whatever the Disney Animation title is),and Black Widow has a built-in fan base already. But they'd have to really break out in a massive way to do $1 billion. It's not impossible for an original title, of which many of these are, to cross a billion -- Zootopia did -- but it's certainly more challenging than when they're working with massively known brands like this year.

    As I said before, I think they are also going to regret not having Guardians 3 next year, as that could probably have easily cleared a billion, given that it was already a hit franchise and now the characters have played significant roles in two Avengers films.

    That being said, Star Wars will play well into the new year, so it will fuel a large part of their first quarter 2020 box office, even though its entire gross will end up counted on the 2019 chart.
     
  6. Adam Lenhardt

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    2020 for Disney is all about Disney+. They're willing to take a short-term hit to their theatrical business in order to launch a whole new revenue stream.

    They also had the bad luck that a number of things all came home to roost at once, the biggest being:
    • Lucasfilm's failure to launch the "A Star Wars Story" saga-adjacent standalone films means that there's no Star Wars product after The Rise of Skywalker.
    • Marvel Studios's desire to keep its post-Endgame plans under wraps meant that it had a lull in production as post-production on Captain Marvel and Endgame wound down.
    • The decision to fire James Gunn and then rehire him after he'd already committed to other projects significantly delayed one of the most profitable sub-franchises in the MCU.
     
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  7. Jake Lipson

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    It took a day longer than I expected, but Far From Home has indeed now passed Spider-Man 2 as the second-highest-grossing Spider-Man film domestically unadjusted. $374,624,545 for Far From Home to $373,585,825 for Spider-Man 2.

    And, worldwide unadjusted, Far From Home will pass Skyfall this weekend to become the highest-grossing film released by Sony in the studio's history.

    https://www.thewrap.com/spider-man-far-from-home-pass-skyfall-sony/


    Good list. I would add the fact that they are burning through live-action remakes at an incredibly fast pace -- this year alone, they've had Dumbo, Aladdin, The Lion King, plus Maleficent 2 (a sequel to a remake) and Lady and the Tramp (for Disney+ at launch in November.) The decision to put all of these in a single year means they'll have a lot of product to put on Disney+ next year, and as you noted, that seems to be their goal. But there's no way that the combined gross of Mulan and Cruella equals Aladdin and The Lion King. What happens when they run out of product to remake? Although I'm sure the live-action side would love to get their hands on it, they won't be allowed to do Frozen while the animated version is still an active property with gas in the tank, and I would be very surprised if it wasn't good for at least one more movie after Frozen 2, if not more. So it will be a while before the live-action division will be able to touch that.
     
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    Exactly. They have to wait for the Netflix deal to expire for a lot of their prior year hits, so this was about cranking out as many hits as possible that aren't subject to the Netflix window. They're betting that once they get people to subscribe, the service will have enough consumer value for them to keep subscribing.

    Disney's live action arm has been an afterthought for most of the studio's history. I think it will fade back into the background a bit once they burn through remaking the animated classics. I also think we'll get live action sequels to the live action remakes that really connect at the box office. Disney is already reportedly in the early stages of an Aladdin sequel with Massoud and Scott, and an Aladdin prequel telling the Genie's origin story with Smith.
     
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    So far, that hasn't worked out well for them. Alice Through the Looking Glass was a dud, and we'll see how Maleficent 2 does, but so far I'm not feeling much buzz on that. Theoretically, Aladdin may fare better if they don't take too long to make another one, although I hated the remake so much that they couldn't pay me to watch more of it, personally, although I recognize that I am in the minority as far as that movie goes.

    I would very much like a sequel to The Jungle Book to bring Mowgli's story in line with the ending of the 1967 film, which I love. However, Disney wanted Favreau to do Lion King first. If they are going to do one, it needs to be soon, before Neal Sethi ages out of the role of Mowgli.
     
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    Yes, it's easy to forget how popular those Spider-Man movies were in the 2000s.

    Also, the three X-Men movies released in 2000, 2003, and 2006 are at $262m, $321m, and $323m respectively in adjusted DOM dollars.

    There were popular Marvel movies in the 2000s before the MCU was launched in 2008. The X-Men movies in particularly do not get enough credit, because they proved that Marvel characters that were not well-known by the general public could be developed in to big movie properties.
     
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    1 N Good Boys Uni. $21,000,000 - 3,204 - $6,554 $21,000,000 $20 1
    2 1 Fast & Furious Presents: Hobbs & Shaw Uni. $14,140,000 -44.0% 3,757 -587 $3,764 $133,741,600 $200 3
    3 3 The Lion King (2019) BV $11,900,000 -41.1% 3,560 -660 $3,343 $496,107,985 - 5
    4 N The Angry Birds Movie 2 Sony $10,500,000 - 3,869 - $2,714 $16,237,146 $65 1
    5 2 Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark LGF $10,050,000 -51.9% 3,135 - $3,206 $40,216,784 $25 2
    6 N 47 Meters Down: Uncaged ENTMP $9,000,000 - 2,853 - $3,155 $9,000,000 $12 1
    7 4 Dora and the Lost City of Gold Par. $8,500,000 -51.2% 3,735 - $2,276 $33,909,724 $49 2
    8 5 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood Sony $7,600,000 -34.8% 2,504 -1,003 $3,035 $114,348,212 $90 4
    9 N Blinded By the Light WB $4,450,000 - 2,307 - $1,929 $4,450,000 - 1
    10 6 The Art of Racing in the Rain Fox $4,403,000 -45.9% 2,765 - $1,592 $16,881,187 - 2
    11 N Where'd You Go, Bernadette UAR $3,455,860 - 2,404 - $1,438 $3,455,860 - 1
    12 8 Spider-Man: Far from Home Sony $2,755,000 -47.8% 1,515 -1,163 $1,818 $376,629,545 $160 7
    13 7 The Kitchen (2019) WB (NL) $2,205,000 -60.1% 2,745 - $803 $10,372,285 $38 2
    14 9 Toy Story 4 BV $2,177,000 -51.9% 1,245 -1,050 $1,749 $424,439,307 - 9
    15 12 The Farewell A24 $1,501,792 -28.4% 861 +157 $1,744 $12,833,687 - 6
    16 N Mission Mangal FIP $1,305,000 - 263 - $4,962 $1,462,394 - 1
    17 11 Brian Banks BST $683,137 -68.3% 980 -260 $697 $3,720,363 - 2
    18 13 Yesterday Uni. $560,000 -50.4% 502 -364 $1,116 $71,653,395 $26 8
    19 14 Aladdin (2019) BV $323,000 -59.7% 225 -390 $1,436 $353,537,257 $183 13
    20 16 The Secret Life of Pets 2 Uni. $259,000 -36.5% 242 -160 $1,070 $157,086,990 $80 11

    Surprise #1 debut for Good Boys
     
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    And surprisingly bad debut for "Birds 2". The first one wasn't a huge hit but it made almost four times as much in its opening weekend!
     
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    Unfortunately, Where'd You Go Bernadette? is another big bomb for Annapurna Pictures. Amidst reports that they are already exploring bankruptcy, how many more of these can they sustain?
     
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    As long as the family continues to pour money into the venture, which appears to be what will be happening next, there is probably no limit to how many flops they can weather.
     
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    They don't seem to be managed very well, They don't make crowd-pleasers, but their budgets are quite high for small niche films. The upside is most everything they make is a co-production with another company, so they're not on the hook for the whole budget.
     
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    Love seeing Toy Story 4 ring the Billion Dollar bell. :dancing-banana-04:
     
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    They don't have to be managed very well. The CEO's dad is the seventh-wealthiest person in the world.
     
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    I have to say it's refreshing to see wealth being used to do more than just fuel making more money that will never be able to be spent by the next three generations of people.
     
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    I doubt he's being so magnanimous. I'm sure every bomb is written off as a business loss, thereby reducing his tax liability and preserving his wealth.
     
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