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2019 At The Box Office

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Tino, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. Hanson

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    The updating of foreign box office figures often lags behind the domestic reports.

    In this case Disney had a couple of million from other countries that weren’t reported yet and they held back officially adding it until this weekend.

    Note that Disney also added about $2M to Avatar’s total cume as well.
     
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    Charting With Dan for this week:

     
  5. steve jaros

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    It's normal for foreign box office takes to lag, so some of that is just reporting from WW sources that was actually generated weeks ago.

    Disney is awesome at getting movies over milestone marks. In this case, I'm happy, because IMO "Endgame" is a lot better than "Avatar".
     
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    Good chance that Far From Home will surpass the lifetime domestic gross of Homecoming today.
     
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    Deadline also reports that Far From Home will pass $1 billion worldwide today.

    It will be the first Spider-Man film to do so, and the second billion dollar movie released by Sony (Skyfall was first.) Incredibly, it will be the ninth film in the MCU to gross a billion, following the four Avengers movies; Black Panther; Iron Man 3; Civil War; and Captain Marvel.

    https://deadline.com/2019/07/spider-man-far-from-home-crosses-1-billion-worldwide-box-office-sony-marvel-1202653689/

    https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=avengers.htm
     
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    Disney owns 22 of the 39 films that have grossed more than a billion worldwide -- a whopping 56 percent of them.
     
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    Plus, it's only a matter of time until that percentage goes up. Aladdin and Toy Story 4 both seem likely to hit $1 billion by the end of their runs, plus Frozen II and The Rise of Skywalker are yet to come later this year.

    Comparatively, Disney's slate for next year seems awfully thin...
     
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    That was apparently planned. They decided to release all of those remakes of the legacy animated films this year to have content to help boost the new Disney+ streaming launch.
     
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    Well, they succeeded in achieving that goal. But I think they might regret it next year when they have a year-over-year decline in grosses.

    Thanks to their own idiocy, they've only got two Marvel release next year instead of the three they were supposed to have.

    Disney's slate for next year includes the following (plus any projects they inherited from Fox.)

    Onward (original Pixar)
    Mulan
    Black Widow
    Artemis Fowl (based on a YA book series that started in 2001)
    Soul (original Pixar)
    Jungle Cruise (The Rock and Emily Blunt)
    The One and Only Ivan (I have no idea what this is)
    The Eternals
    Untitled Disney Animation
    Cruella (Emma Stone)

    Even if all of these are big (and I'm not sure they all will be), those just aren't going to be as big as a combination of Captain Marvel, Avengers Endgame, Aladdin, Toy Story 4, The Lion King, Frozen II and The Rise of Skywalker.
     
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    I agree, but then again, I don't think anyone at Disney or outside Disney expects them to be.
     
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    You might disagree with their movie release strategy, but to call it idiocy is just hyperbolic. Like any studio, Disney makes mistakes, but they make less of them than the other studios and usually know what they're doing. Obviously, their forward strategy is broader base than just 2020 movie releases. I'm not sure you realize the importance of Disney+ is to their future earnings.
     
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    To stress the importance of Disney+’s success, note that HALF of Marvel Studios’ “Phase 4” projects are Disney+ limited series. They’re not messing around.
     
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    I wasn't referring to the overall strategy, which obviously works. I was referring to a specific incident. I should be more clear. Disney had three Marvel placeholder dates assigned in 2020, and the third Marvel release for 2020 was supposed to be Guardians 3. We know this because James Gunn said it was coming in 2020 when he signed his deal to return for it.

    Then they firrd him. Then, later, they reversed their decision to fire him.

    It was absolutely idiotic to fire him in the first place. If they had not done that, Guardians 3 would have been shooting this year as was the original plan, and they would have had three Marvel films in 2020 to rake in money. Instead, due to their own idiocy, Gunn was temporarily fired and now they have two. That's their mistake, and I think the overall Disney slate next year is such that they will regret it, as they could really have used Guardians 3 next year.
     
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    It was not a good decision, but corporations make mistakes all the time. They'll recover from that mistake when the ledgers are finalized over the next several years.
     
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    Exactly -- over the next several years, they'll be fine, absolutely.

    Next year, when they incur a potentially large year-over-year drop due to the outsize success that they had this year and relatively modest lineup for next year, they might regret not having Guardians there.
     
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    I don't know why you keep on arguing this point. Mistakes happen, but most successful companies like Disney quickly recover from their missteps.
     
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    Not arguing, just stating. Next year's slate is much less loaded with heavy-hitters than this year's slate.
     
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    Is anybody arguing that point?
     

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