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2018 At The Boxoffice

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Tino, Jan 1, 2018.

  1. Colin Jacobson

    Colin Jacobson Lead Actor

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    "Get Out" beats it easily in the "profitability" domain - about the same US take with a $4.5 million budget! :eek:
     
  2. Tino

    Tino Executive Producer
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    Which is why I said “one of” the most profitable films.

    In the end I think A Quiet Place will surpass Get Out in world wide gross and overall profitability.

    Plus I think it’s the better film. :D
     
  3. Colin Jacobson

    Colin Jacobson Lead Actor

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    I knew that was coming! :D

    Oh, no - no no no no no.

    No! :laugh:
     
  4. Tino

    Tino Executive Producer
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    Oh Yes. Yes Yes Yes. And I really liked Get Out too. :P
     
  5. Malcolm R

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    I thought it was sorted a few months back that The Greatest Showman was the most profitable film that ever was, or ever will be, in the history of filmdom?
     
  6. Tino

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    I don’t think profitability was ever the main discussion but rather TGS’s incredible legs and multiplier vs it’s opening weekend.


    Total Lifetime Grosses
    Domestic: $173,296,519 40.8%
    + Foreign: $251,461,951 59.2%
    = Worldwide: $424,758,470

    Vs an $84 million production budget it still did pretty well though.
     
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    Jake Lipson

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    Well, in my post you quoted I was more worried about someone coming for Paramount eventually due to the string of flops they've had recently not putting them on the most solid footing right now.

    Although I'm excited that Marvel will get the X-Men back, and Star Wars will all be under one roof, it's sort of a sad ending to Fox's remarkable legacy that they're just going to be folded into Disney. I'm not sure that those two benefits are enough to outweigh the inherent negatives of losing a major studio and having it become, best-case scenario, a brand name in Disney's portfolio.

    I also think MGM losing its independence would be sad.

    Do you remember where you saw that reported? I didn't see that stat. Box Office Mojo reports its production budget at $84 million, and it has grossed $424 million worldwide. While I'm sure that that's profitable, it doesn't beat the return-on-investment of something like Get Out, which made $255 million worldwide but only cost $4.5 million to make, and probably had a smaller marketing budget than Greatest Showman too.

    This is not to diminish Greatest Showman's achievements, but as Tino noted while I was in the process of writing this message, the remarkable thing about Greatest Shwman's performance is that its opening weekend result was terrible, and everybody thought it was a bomb, but then it just kept going thanks to word-of-mouth and legs and turned that narrative around.
     
  8. Malcolm R

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    It was a joke, that has apparently gone over everyone's head.
     
  9. Tino

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    Oh I got it alright. Just figured I’d respond with the facts. :D
     
  10. Robert Crawford

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    They just wanted to argue some more about The Greatest Showman.
     
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  11. Colin Jacobson

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    I wanted it noted for the record that although I love to argue about "TGS", I was not responsible for its inclusion in this current discussion! I will sleep soundly tonight! :rolling-smiley:
     
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  12. Vic Pardo

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    For the record, I tried watching THE GREATEST SHOWMAN on an overseas flight recently and couldn't get past the first three minutes. That shrill opening number was like chalk screeching on a blackboard to me. Is the whole film like that? I had horrible flashbacks to Baz Luhrmann's MOULIN ROUGE.
     
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    Is the whole film like that? The first three minutes aren’t even like that! :)
     
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    Apparently, musicals like Moulin Rouge and The Greatest Showman aren't Vic/Brian's style when it comes to music.
     
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    Vic. Just curious. Do you ever see films in a movie theater? It seems as tho you watch mostly on planes or Pan and scan cable. I think I remember you disliking Gravity after seeing it fi the first time pan and scan on a 13” TV. Do you think watching these type grand epic films this way affects your enjoyment of these films?
     
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    I agree with you. I watched the whole thing, and while I won't say anything negative about the performances, or production value....I disliked every minute of it. It was a struggle to get to the end. Some movies just don't work for me, even if I recognize their appeal.
     
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    That's probably true for just about all of us. I'm sure there are some films that you and Vic love that probably doesn't float my boat at all. It's the nature of subjective film appreciation. It happens in just about every art form.
     
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    For what it's worth - I saw TGS in theaters and I was really underwhelmed by the opening number. And then it seemed that each song that followed was better than the opening number. So here's at least one voice to say that I thought the opening song was one of the weaker ones in the film.
     
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    Thanks, Josh. If it comes on cable, I'll mute the opening number and see how I fare with the rest of it.
     
  20. Vic Pardo

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    I'm flattered that you remember my earlier post on GRAVITY, Tino, although I must correct you in that I watched it on cable in high-def on a 32-inch Sony Bravia and not on the 13-inch TV/VCR combo (which has since given up the ghost). With all that hyperactive camera movement in GRAVITY, I think I would have gotten nauseous watching it on the big screen, in 3-D or not.

    But, no, since retirement, I've watched fewer Hollywood films on the big screen. There are fewer that I'm interested in and I'm making fewer and fewer trips into Manhattan and there is basically only one accessible multiplex theater in the Bronx. For the record, I grew up in an era when there were 16 movie theaters within walking distance of the Bronx apartment building I grew up in. I loved the days when you could walk into a theater, pay for the ticket, give it to the ticket taker, walk past the concession stand and there you were, in the theater picking your seat. Nowadays, one has to take a series of escalators and walk down long corridors before finding the theater and then one has to sit in an assigned seat, something I hate doing since I like to try out different seats before finding the one that's least uncomfortable for me. And then you have to sit through 20 minutes of commercials and trailers that completely destroy the anticipatory mood I may have been in. All those trailers with the constant fades to black and frequent "whoosh!" sounds play hell with my nervous system. Going to the movies is such a chore these days and it's only when I see something from Asia that interests me (e.g. SHIN GODZILLA, YOUR NAME, IN THIS CORNER OF THE WORLD, WOLF WARRIORS II, OUR LITTLE SISTER) that makes the trip worthwhile. I loved John Woo's MANHUNT, which I saw on the plane coming back from Tokyo and wish it had played in theaters. I would definitely see that on the big screen.

    But thank you for asking.
     
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