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Speaking of looking bad, the Giants looked terrible on both sides of the ball last night. I may not be a defensive coordinator, but even I know you do not let the best receiver in the NFL run wide open down the middle of the field. If the Eagles do not win that horrible division, the fans in Philly should revolt.
 

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I left the room after the 1st half of the Eagles game. My son was watching it and was giving me updates during the second half. I would only watch the replays. Seems like they would score when I wasn't in the room so I didn't want to jinx them.Talking about bad franchises Scott, The Eagles are in a division where they are the only team to not win a Superbowl. Everyone else has won at least THREE! I think Philly is one of the worst as far as teams winning Championships. Flyers haven't won since '74-75, Sixers haven't won since '83, only the Phillies have won in 2008 and that's only twice in the history of the franchise! It's also tough being a Philly fan!I'm convinced the Eagles will be the last team to win a Super Bowl.
 

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My guess is Rice's wife is more upset that her hubby won't be pulling in millions (after his payout) in endorsements etc and she won't be part of the wives club now..

Weird how she seems to come off as if she is more worried about the the $$$ and fame vs. the fact that her hubbie beat the crap out of her and everyone in the word saw it happen.
Janay Rice, wife of suspended NFL player Ray Rice who was released by the Baltimore Ravens, apparently posted a statement Tuesday on Instagram calling the situation a "nightmare."
"To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass off for all his life just to gain ratings is a horrific (sic)," she wrote.
The actions against Ray Rice were taken Monday after a video surfaced showing him knocking her out with a punch in February.
The Instagram post, reported by various media, appeared to be authentic.
 

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Scott Merryfield said:
Anyone who thinks the NFL hadn't seen either this video or one similar to it before today has their head in the sand.
According to TMZ you are wrong, the NFL never saw the tape.That fact doesn't surprise me in the least. Some one in the league office had to know such a tape was available, everyone know that elevators in casinos have cameras but they didn't want to see the tape so they didn't ask for it,This is such a failure of leadership on so many levels but the ones that deserve the most blame is law enforcement. They most certainly did see the tape and recommended no jail time. Talk about failing to do their jobs.
 

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Domestic abuse, in most states, REQUIRES the victim to press the charges.The police, her parents, DA...nobody can do it for the victim.Small chance(not likely here) this was a game between the two that got out of hand.Think Rihanna and Chris Brown. Chris Brown was more at fault at being retarded in Rihanna's, uhm...wishes. He overstepped...cause he was an idiot in implementation.That could be the story here...but, I doubt it.
 

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Bob_S. said:
I left the room after the 1st half of the Eagles game. My son was watching it and was giving me updates during the second half. I would only watch the replays. Seems like they would score when I wasn't in the room so I didn't want to jinx them.Talking about bad franchises Scott, The Eagles are in a division where they are the only team to not win a Superbowl. Everyone else has won at least THREE! I think Philly is one of the worst as far as teams winning Championships. Flyers haven't won since '74-75, Sixers haven't won since '83, only the Phillies have won in 2008 and that's only twice in the history of the franchise! It's also tough being a Philly fan!I'm convinced the Eagles will be the last team to win a Super Bowl.
And I thought I would never see a championship in this town, especially after the Eagles made 4 straight trips to the NFC Championship, and always find worse ways to lose them. The one time they did win, and got into the Super Bowl, Andy Reid's time management would ultimately do them in, and made me no longer like the guy after that. After that, they pretty much went backwards (the Championship game against the Cardinals, notwithstanding), until they hit rock bottom.

The Phillies have pretty much followed the same pattern.
 

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Talking about bad franchises Scott, The Eagles are in a division where they are the only team to not win a Superbowl. Everyone else has won at least THREE! I think Philly is one of the worst as far as teams winning Championships. Flyers haven't won since '74-75, Sixers haven't won since '83, only the Phillies have won in 2008 and that's only twice in the history of the franchise! It's also tough being a Philly fan!
It isn't any picnic living in the Houston area. We've had the Houston Aeros of the WHA win the AVCO trophy back in the '70s back to back and we've had the Houston Rockets win back to back in the '90s. The Houston Dynamo won back to back in 2006 and 2007. (Weird that all of the teams are repeat winners.)

Astros have only been once to the World Series and got skunked by the Chicago White Sox. Lost in the NLCS to Phillies and Mets in the 80s.

Houston Cougars lost to NC State (1983) and Georgetown (1984) in the NCAA Basketball Championship game.

The Houston Oilers lost back to back AFC Championship games to the Steelers. (The Oilers of that era were a great team and their only mistake was being great at the same time the Steelers were great-plus.) Of course, I can't mention the Oilers without reliving the infamous playoff loss to Buffalo in January of 1993. As the Titans they did make it to the Super Bowl but came up short against the Rams.

So, I commiserate. :( :)

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Patrick_S said:
According to TMZ you are wrong, the NFL never saw the tape.That fact doesn't surprise me in the least. Some one in the league office had to know such a tape was available, everyone know that elevators in casinos have cameras but they didn't want to see the tape so they didn't ask for it,This is such a failure of leadership on so many levels but the ones that deserve the most blame is law enforcement. They most certainly did see the tape and recommended no jail time. Talk about failing to do their jobs.
Well, I'm not sure TMZ is the most reliable source to believe on this, being the "National Enquirer" of television. However, you are right that if the NFL did not see this video, it was by their choice of wanting to be able to plead ignorance. The NFL has some top-notch security people within their employment, so getting access to this video would have been simple had they wanted to. And as I said, even without seeing the video beforehand, what exactly did they expect the incident to look like? It takes more than a tap to the head to knock someone unconscious. There was nothing on that video that shocked me, knowing from the reports what had transpired in the elevator.
 

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Alf S said:
My guess is Rice's wife is more upset that her hubby won't be pulling in millions (after his payout) in endorsements etc and she won't be part of the wives club now..

Weird how she seems to come off as if she is more worried about the the $$$ and fame vs. the fact that her hubbie beat the crap out of her and everyone in the word saw it happen.
Yep. IMO, she lost all sympathy and credibility when she decided to marry the man anyway, after he knocked her out. She's more interested in the money and lifestyle than her own well-being.

It'll be interesting to see if divorce papers are in the future, now that Rice has lost all access to any substantial income (no job, sponsors fleeing, no one likely to want to be associated with him in the future, at least not anytime soon).
 

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Ouch..even EA sports is wiping Rice out of their Madden 15 game.
 

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Malcolm R said:
Yep. IMO, she lost all sympathy and credibility when she decided to marry the man anyway, after he knocked her out. She's more interested in the money and lifestyle than her own well-being.

It'll be interesting to see if divorce papers are in the future, now that Rice has lost all access to any substantial income (no job, sponsors fleeing, no one likely to want to be associated with him in the future, at least not anytime soon).
I agree with this, too. It's tough to feel sorry for a victim that turns around and marries a guy like that after the incident. Honestly, none of the parties in this whole debacle deserve any sympathy -- Rice, his girlfriend, the NFL, the Ravens, law enforcement, etc. Everyone has failed.
 

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Malcolm R said:
Yep. IMO, she lost all sympathy and credibility when she decided to marry the man anyway, after he knocked her out. She's more interested in the money and lifestyle than her own well-being.

It'll be interesting to see if divorce papers are in the future, now that Rice has lost all access to any substantial income (no job, sponsors fleeing, no one likely to want to be associated with him in the future, at least not anytime soon).
A few assumptions on your part that I don't necessarily agree with because other than seeing her get knocked out and watching a few soundbites of that press conference, I don't know much about her to make that determination. You might be right about her, but you could be wrong too.

It's funny how people make judgments of others so quickly without really knowing them. I guess that's the age we live in.
 

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Crawdaddy is absolutely right. I highly doubt that her thought process is "I don't mind getting beat up as long as I get to live this lifestyle." Much more likely she's afraid to say or do anything to set him off. Or maybe she comes from a violent household and doesn't really understand how to handle the situation. Or she feels otherwise trapped. It could be a number of things.

The world would be a lot simpler if it were so easy for victims of domestic violence to just hit the road.
 

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Much more likely she's afraid to say or do anything to set him off. Or maybe she comes from a violent household and doesn't really understand how to handle the situation. Or she feels otherwise trapped. It could be a number of things.
All those things may be true, but it's very difficult not to believe that the lifestyle afforded a rich football player factors into it.
 

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RobertR said:
All those things may be true, but it's very difficult not to believe that the lifestyle afforded a rich football player factors into it.
I guess it's much easier to assume the worse in people then to think other factors might be in play here.
 

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Robert Crawford said:
I guess it's much easier to assume the worse in people then to think other factors might be in play here.
I don't know if it's easier to assume the worst but it sure seems like it works out that way so many times. Just too many examples of people behaving poorly based on money, sex, drugs, etc.
 

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Robert Crawford said:
I guess it's much easier to assume the worse in people then to think other factors might be in play here.
Actually, I granted that the other factors may be in play. That doesn't mean money isn't one of several factors.
 

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RobertR said:
Actually, I granted that the other factors may be in play. That doesn't mean money isn't one of several factors.
Like I stated, I don't know this woman well enough to say money or any factor is part of her motivation, but it seems others have no problem in stating her true motivation.
 

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