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Lou Sytsma

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Ah, that would be the trick for you I imagine. Hopefully someone in the business will read your posts and make it happen!
 

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What shocks me is look at the release dates. 5 of those movies predates the home viewing experience as standard, most by several years. That Titanic sold those tickets in 1997 is what amazes me. Nothing has come close since, not even TPM or ROTK.

And Titanic was only 11M tickets behind E.T., so that's pretty close. But I'm biased.

No, I recognize that GWTW and Star Wars are the two biggies here, but Titanic was pretty singular. It also did that in an era of media oversaturation (which helps for a few weeks, like three - and then starts hurting). The late 90's were definitely a time period of "NEXT", with nothing sticking in the public consciousness. I also experienced Titanic overseas during early 1998, and it was bigger in the Mediterranean than it was here. It was huge everywhere, all at once :)

Terry, can you share the rest of that list (you posted it before)? I remember there is a BIG dropoff coming between two consecutive films.
 

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Looks like a 17 M for Spidey on Friday according to Link Removed . Will this film still make over 300 M domestically? Does it at all put "Spider-Man 4" in question? Maybe it just gives the studio more insentive to have an all new cast and director (ie. Batman Forever to Batman Returns).
 

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Yep, a Friday-to-Friday drop of 71%. :eek:

Overall, it looks like a flop weekend for the box office, as both "28 Weeks Later" ($3.8 m) and "Georgia Rule" ($1.9 m) appear to have stiffed on Friday.
 

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And the $200M plateau will wait. Youch. If this steep hit does happen, this film has almost not shot in heck of making $300M. I know that's a big number, but there were plenty of people who viewed this as the film with "sure thing" for $300M on it.
 

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Here ya go Chuck, the flicks that sold at least 50 million theater admissions.

"Gone with the Wind" 206.4 million (1939)
"Star Wars" 197 million (1977)
"The Sound of Music" 153.5 million (1965)
"E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial" 150.4 million (1982)
"The Ten Commandments" 131.7 million (1956)
"The Jungle Book" 125.3 million (1967)
"Titanic" 123.2 million (1997)
"Jaws" 122.3 million (1975)
"Dr. Zhivago" 121.8 million (1965)
"101 Dalmatians" 119.7 million (1961)
"Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" 118.6 million (1937)
"Ben-Hur" 111.1 million (1959)
"Return of the Jedi" 102.2 million (1983)
"The Exorcist" 101.8 million (1973)
"The Empire Strikes Back" 101.7 million (1980)
"Raiders of the Lost Ark" 94.9 million (1981)
"Mary Poppins" 93.1 million (1964)
"The Sting" 89.9 million (1973)
"The Lion King" 88.8 million (1994)
"Star Wars: Episode I- The Phantom Menace" 88.3 million (1999)
"Fantasia" 86.3 million (1940)
"The Graduate" 81.8 million (1967)
"Jurassic Park" 81.1 million (1993)
"Sleeping Beauty" 79.1 million (1959)
"Bambi" 76.6 million (1942)
"Shrek 2" 74.6 million (2004)
"The Godfather" 74.5 million (1972)
"Forrest Gump" 74.1 million (1994)
"Close Encounters of the Third Kind" 73 million (1977)
"Grease" 70.7 million (1978)
"Ghostbusters" 70.3 million (1984)
"Home Alone" 70.2 million (1990)
"Spider-Man" 69.6 million (2002)
"Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid" 69.2 million (1969)
"Love Story" 68.7 million (1970)
"Cleopatra" 67.3 million (1963)
"Pinocchio" 66.7 million (1940)
"Thunderball" 65.9 million (1965)
"Beverly Hills Cop" 65.7 million (1984)
"Independence Day" 65.3 million (1996)
"The Robe" 64.8 million (1953)
"American Graffiti" 64.7 million (1973)
"Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" 64.3 million (2006)
"Around the World in 80 Days" 63.4 million (1956)
"The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" 62.5 million (2003)
"Aladdin" 62.2 million (1992)
"Cinderella" 61.8 million (1950)
"Airport" 61.6 million (1970)
"The Bells of St. Mary" 61.5 million (1945)
"The Towering Inferno" 61.4 million (1974)
"Lady & the Tramp" 60.6 million (1955)
"Spider-Man 2" 60.2 million (2004)
"Blazing Saddles" 60.1 million (1974)
"West Side Story" 60 million (1961)
"The Passion of the Christ" 59.7 million (2004)
"Batman" 59.7 million (1989)
"Tootsie" 59.6 million (1982)
"The Greatest Show on Earth" 59.4 million (1952)
"My Fair Lady" 59.3 million (1964)
"Star Wars: Episode III- Revenge of the Sith" 59.2 million (2005)
"Finding Nemo" 59.2 million (2003)
"The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" 58.9 million (2002)
"Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" 58.9 million (2001)
"Billy Jack" 58.8 million (1971)
"Back to the Future" 58.7 million (1985)
"Let's Make Love" 58.6 million (1960)
"This is the Army" 58.5 million (1943)
"The Best Years of Our Lives" 58.4 million (1946)
"National Lampoon's Animal House" 56.9 million (1978)
"Superman: The Movie" 56.7 million (1978)
"Smokey and the Bandit" 56.2 million (1977)
"Saturday Night Fever" 56 million (1977)
"Quo Vadis" 56 million (1951)
"The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring" 55.6 million (2001)
"Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" 55.6 million (1984)
"Toy Story 2" 55.2 million (1999)
"From Here to Eternity" 54.9 million (1953)
"Rocky" 54.5 million (1976)
"The Sixth Sense" 54.4 million (1999)
"Goldfinger" 54.4 million (1964)
"The Poseidon Adventure" 54.3 million (1972)
"It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" 53.9 million (1963)
"Star Wars: Episode II- Attack of the Clones" 53.5 million (2002)
"For Whom the Bell Tolls" 53.4 million (1943)
"The Bridge on the River Kwai" 53.4 million (1957)
"Swiss Family Robinson" 52.8 million (1960)
"M*A*S*H" 52.7 million (1970)
"Mrs. Doubtfire" 52.4 million (1993)
"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" 52.1 million (1975)
"Twister" 51.6 million (1996)
"Samson and Delilah" 51.4 million (1949)
"The Longest Day" 51.4 million (1962)
"Men in Black" 51.3 million (1997)
"Song of the South" 51 million (1946)
"Ghost" 50.9 million (1990)
"Lawrence of Arabia" 50.8 million (1962)
"White Christmas" 50.8 million (1954)
"Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl" 50.6 million (2003)
"Duel in the Sun" 50.5 million (1946)
"South Pacific" 50.4 million (1958)
"Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas" 50.3 million (2000)
"Toy Story" 50.2 million (1995)
 

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I think it'll still squeak to $300M. But it's going to be seen as boom then bust. Sony screwed it up.

Thanks for the list, Terry. I'll read it and share some thought soon :)
 

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What gets me looking up the list is how really, truly big Disney animation has been in film history. If it had not been for children's ticket prices, Disney would have huge box office numbers on many of there classics, inflation adjusted would be very high.

But the devotion to them shows why the DVD sales are great. While I personally have always loved Jungle Book, I never realized it was that much of a blockbuster.
 

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It'll still make $300 million, the first weekend was too big for that not to happen even with drop-offs. I think tomorrow the slide for Spidey 3 will stabilize a little bit with the Saturday matinee crowd (families + kids), but lets face it ...

This isn't that much of a shock. The people who really had to see this movie saw it last week with all the prints out there and word-of-mouth has been mixed. It reminds me a bit of Batman Returns from 1992, huge hype and audience goodwill going in to release, lots of backlash by the second weekend.

But it is pretty amazing that we've reached the point where $50+ million for a second weekend is consider terrible, lol. I remember the days when $50+ mill for the opening weekend was considered massive. And no way does this impact Spidey 4, it'll just give Sony their out to dump Raimi/Dunst/Maguire (though I think they will try and keep Tobey) and get some new blood in on the franchise.
 

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Great list Terry. And yeah, you should be getting paid for the data and analysis you've provided over the years in these threads. I alway followed Box Office stuff back in the day but only on Monday (Gosh does that feel a LONG time ago or what!) when I thought that was the only way.
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I know Terry doesn't want this attention but truthfully the reason I think his posts are so good are due to the lack of spin. Terry gives us the data & the industry take on that...and then he lets us un-worthy peasants duke it out. :D

Sorry for the lovefest Terry but you deserve it with what is continually the BEST thread each year on the HTF. :emoji_thumbsup:

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Friday Estimates

#1 "Spider-Man 3" $17.8 million ($199.9 million) 70% Friday-to-Friday drop (ouch)
#2 "28 Weeks Later" $3.9 million
#3 "George Rule" 1.9 million
#4 "Disturbia" $1.6 million ($63.0 million) 29% Friday-to-Friday drop
#5 "Delta Farce" $1.1 million
#6 "Fracture" $825K ($28.9 million) 27% Friday-to-Friday drop
#7 "The Invisible" $715K ($14.1 million) 44% Friday-to-Friday drop
#8 "Hot Fuzz" $495K ($17.8 million) 29% Friday-to-Friday drop
#9 "The Ex" $490K
#10 "Next" $445K ($13.4 million) 56% Friday-to-Friday drop

"Spider-Man 3" took a steeper-than-expected 70% hit in its Friday-to-Friday numbers. Compared with the previous two movies, "Spider-Man" earned $19.9 million during its second-Friday, giving it a moderate 49% dip in its Friday-to-Friday numbers, while "Spider-Man 2" pulled in $13.9 million, translating to a 57% Friday-to-Friday drop.

Overall, Spidey 3 earned the ninth best second-Friday mark in history (the third best for a non-holiday frame). Here are the top ten...

#1 "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" $23.0 million
#2 "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" $22.8 million
#3 "Toy Story 2" $22.6 million
#4 "Shrek 2" $20.2 million
#5 "Spider-Man" $19.9 million
#6 "Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas" $19.7 million
#7 "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" $19.2 million
#8 "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" $18.5 million
#9 "Spider-Man 3" $17.8 million
#10 "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" $16.9 million

Of the films with $100 million-plus openings, here is how they did in their Friday-to-Friday numbers...

"X-Men: The Last Stand" $10.3 million -77% (-67% for the weekend)
"Spider-Man 3" $17.8 million -70%
"Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" $18.5 million -67% (-54% for the weekend)
"Star Wars: Episode III- Revenge of the Sith" $15.5 million -54% (-49% for the weekend)
"Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" $22.8 million -45% (-46% for the weekend)
"Spider-Man" $19.9 million -49% (-37% for the weekend)
"Shrek 2" $20.2 million -28% (-33% for the weekend)

Sony is expecting Spidey 3's numbers to (hopefully) stabilize today and tomorrow. The studio is also expecting the movie to earn in the neighborhood of $55-$60 million this weekend, becoming one of 12 movies to earn more than $50 mil during their sophomore frames in theaters.

Today will also see Spidey 3 pass the double-century mark, its ninth day of release. That gives it the second fastest time to the $200 million plateau behind Pirates 2, 'Revenge of the Sith', and "Spider-Man 2". All three of these films needed only eight days to hit that mark. Spidey 3 will tie with the original Spidey flick, it too needed a mere nine days to hit $200 million.

While Spidey 3's numbers are indeed gaudy, the studio has to be troubled by the fact that the movie had such a gigantic opening, but is fading a lot faster than anticipated. The film's pace is now behind Pirates 2, 'Revenge of the Sith', and Spidey 2. It will soon fall well behind the pace of both "Shrek 2" and the first Spidey flick. Sony was hoping the movie wouldn't be as front loaded as it seems to be showing great signs of being.

The studio thought that it could top the $403.7 million domestic mark of the first movie, but now it looks as though Spidey 3 will be the least successful of the franchise. Still, no one is going to shed a tear for Sony because Spidey 3 will make well north of $300 million domestically, as well as topping $700 million worldwide. Boo hoo. Spidey 4 will hit theaters in either 2009 or 2010.

"28 Weeks Later" got off to a so-so start and should pull in about $10-$11 million this weekend. "Georgia Rule" barely found an audience and should debut with about $5-$6 million. Both "Delta Farce" and "The Ex" (especially "The Ex") crashed and burned upon their openings.
 

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terry, all those reports rock :emoji_thumbsup:

all of HTF wuvs you

Aaanyway, what do ya'll think shrek 3 will do next weekend? this weekend is a bit like the "calm" before the storm.
 

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I have a little job for you mr. box office..

as you heard die hard 4 is going to be a PG-13 rated.. perhaps you could list other sequels that had R rated first movies and new rating on the second films.. like conan the destroyer, another stakeout, mad max 3 etc etc..

thanks

Jacob
 

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Jedi, right now the general consensus is that "Shrek the Third" will open with in the neighborhood of $90-$110 million.

For TheBat, PG/PG-13 rated sequels to R rated originals. I'll probably miss a few, but here goes..

"Alien vs. Predator" $80.3 million (PG-13)
"Another Stakeout" $20.2 millon (PG-13)
"Be Cool" $56.0 million (PG-13)
"Caddyshack II" $11.8 million (PG)
"Christmas Vacation" $71.3 million (PG-13)
"Conan the Destroyer" $31.0 million (PG)
"European Vacation" $49.4 million (PG-13)
"F/X 2" $21.1 million (PG-13)
"Graffiti Bridge" $4.6 million (PG-13)
"Mad Max: Beyond Thunderball" $36.2 million (PG-13)
"Major League II" $30.6 million (PG)
"Major League: Back to the Minors" $3.6 million (PG-13)
"Police Academy 2: Their First Assignment" $55.6 million (PG-13)
"Police Academy 3: Back in Training" $43.6 million (PG)
"Police Academy 4: Citizens on Patrol" $28.1 million (PG)
"Police Academy 5: Assignment- Miami Beach" $19.5 million (PG)
"Police Academy 6: City Under Siege" $11.6 million (PG)
"Police Academy 7: MIssion to Moscow" $126K (PG)
"RoboCop 3" $10.7 million (PG-13)
"Scary Movie 3" $110.0 million (PG-13)
"Scary Movie 4" $90.7 million (PG-13)
"Staying Alive" $64.9 million (PG)
"Vegas Vacation" $36.4 million (PG)
"Young Guns II" $44.1 million (PG-13)
 

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Terry's gonna have to start charging a fee per question if everyone keeps asking him things that require so much research. :D
 

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I have known mr box office for about 10 years now. we met in a batman chatroom right before B&R was released..

we have been friends every since.

Jacob

PS.. thanks for the listing box.
 

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