2 HDTVs to chose from...Wich one help me decide please...

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  1. Cameron Wright

    Cameron Wright Stunt Coordinator

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    I can get a Toshiba 32HFX72 for $1885 or a Panasoniz 32HL42
    for $2050 and its a FLoor model.. I've been with this guy for along time.. so He gives me good deals... (I think [​IMG]
    Are there any major differances.. Have you looked at these to and picked on ? And why?
    He said he would go with the pansonic only because of the better looking case... thats basically it.. What do you have to say?
    Thanks!
     
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    Toshiba. The Pani doesn't do the 16x9 Squeeze with 480i or 480p, only 1080i signals. I tried to verify this at my local dealer and we couldn't get the squeeze to work with 480p so I assume it cn't be done. Maybe you should try to verify with your dealer too just to be sure.

    If you find it does the squeeze and everything else checks out, the pani is probably a better unit, but be carefull with demo models, the contrast was probably set very high. I would highly recommend to avoid demo/floor model TV's.
     
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    the HL is a new model and it says it does to the squeeze for DVDs (so I presume they mean 480p). Interesting how they "sneaked" in the HL line, and just sorta say it will squeeze DVDs...trying to act like nobody found out the HX line couldn't squeeze DVDs.

    I'm going with an RPTV..
     
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    I know it sounds like you have trust in this dealer, but a few additional thoughts, here.

    I considered some great deals on floor models, and turned them all down.

    With a floor model, you just don't know the history. Was it run in "torch mode," either on the showroom floor, or in someon'e house, until they develeoped a problem, or traded it back in? If so, for how long?

    I was at two dealers where the sales reps talked about how they were "ISF certified." (I later found out that the ISF does not like the word "certified," not that this matters). Also, what does this mean? That the owner is? That one of their service techs has undergone ISF training? Does the ISF truly certify a store? Or, is it only people? Both dealers had many models -- all that I checked, actually -- running with the contrast set up very high.

    That, of course, can mean significant reduction in the "life expectancy" of those CRTs and additional caution about the possibility for uneven phosphor wear. If you consider a floor model, be sure to check the image on a very light or all white screen, to make certain it is not already suffering.

    Just my thoughts,

    -Bruce in Chi-Town
     
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    what should I look for when checking i have the avia dvd i belive it is... dose that have a white screen i cant remember..
     
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    nope I haven't...but you can have some knowledge from the site..it says it squeezes..but the HX only does 1080i (I got an email from panasonic saying that), but the HL says it does it for "DVDs". Anyone knowa DVD encoded in 1080i? I could ask panasonic directly on that too...
    -ELmO[​IMG]
     
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    Cam,
    Do a search on 16x9 squeeze or anamorphic squeeze. There's lot's of info to be learned. Basically it lets you view anamorphic DVD's in full resolution by squeezing the scan lines of a 4x3 tv into a 16x9 frame within the 4x3 screen using all the scan lines, if you don't do this there are some scan lines that are wasted in the top and bottom black bar area.

    Anyone have the links that explain it better?
     
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    I would advise against purchasing a used, or floor, or demo TV.

    Showroom TV’s, except some high-end, specialist dealers all have their picture set a very high contrast and brightness levels. This will reduce the life of the set, but more importantly increase the chances of burn-in on the sides or top/bottom of the set.

    Even if the picture levels seem appropriate today, you have no way of knowing the settings used by the previous owner.

    Purchase the new set.
     
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    Hey the Toshiba is a better tv anyway, plus its cheaper and out of the box. I would imagine you would ahve less frustration returning a tv that was brand new han a floor model that way they cant argue that you got a special deal cause it was a floor model. Plus that is a great deal on the 32" I paid 2860 for my 36" HFX71.
     
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    Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
     
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    What ya mean Hum?
     
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    John, how do you like your 36" Toshiba? Any problems? Thanks.

    DQ
     
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    I love my tv, there were/are a few geometry problems, but those are present in almost every tv, and I have pretty much corrected them all to my satisfaction (for some reason FFX wont display properly... but oh well) As far as picture quality I personally perfer the Toshiba to anythign else I have found. It does a much better job on cable and sattilite feeds than anything else ive seen, although the sony is perhaps half a hairs breadth better on dvd sources. but to be honest i only noticed a difference watching both side by side and it was a tough call.

    on the lower quality sources the toshiba was the obvious winner in my opinion.
     
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    well I THINK I might be looking into RPTV's heh.. I always start looking at things 1/3 of the final price I buy so... Im looking at Toshiba 50H82 or a 50HDX82 (mainly has the new Pegasus III crt's) I was talking to the ISF certified tech that dose all the calibrations at the store. they had the 50h82 and the 50HDX82 side by side.. HDX had a entry level calibration done he said and the other had nothing done I wa shocked on what the calibrated set look like.. the set also costs 800$ more so I know the insides are better but.. I have never seen a RPTV look like this I was watching a NFL SAT feed not HD or anything.. I looked like a Direct view tv... meaning that by it didn't look like a normal RPTV on a normal feed .. by that i mean it looked VERY shap .. u could watch cable all day with no problems
     

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