1. Sign-up to become a member, and most of the ads you see will disappear. It only takes 30 seconds to sign up, so join the discussion today!
    Dismiss Notice

Blu-ray Review 1776 Blu-ray Review

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Richard Gallagher, May 31, 2015.

  1. Richard Gallagher

    Reviewer

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2001
    Messages:
    4,114
    Likes Received:
    1,072
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    Fishkill, NY
    Real Name:
    Rich Gallagher
    XenForo Template 1776 Blu-ray Review

     

    1776, one of the most eagerly-anticipated Blu-ray releases of the year, is being released by Sony in a spectacular edition which will please the film's most demanding fans. It has been fully restored in 4K under the supervision and support of Sony's Grover Crisp and Jeremy Glassman, and it includes both Peter H. Hunt's 166-minute Director's Cut and an Extended Cut with a few minutes of additional footage. "I'm ecstatic," says Hunt. "1776 is back to where it should be. The work done by Grover and his team is miraculous. It looks better than when it premiered. It's gorgeous!"


    Cover Art


    Studio: Sony

    Distributed By: N/A

    Video Resolution and Encode: 1080P/AVC

    Aspect Ratio: 2.35:1

    Audio: English 5.1 DTS-HDMA

    Subtitles: English, English SDH, French

    Rating: Not Rated

    Run Time: 2 Hr. 45 Min. (Director's Cut) 2 Hr. 47 Min. (Extended Cut)

    Package Includes: Blu-ray, UltraViolet

    Standard Blu-ray Case

    Disc Type: BD50 (dual layer)

    Region: ABC

    Release Date: 06/02/2015

    MSRP: $19.99




    The Production Rating: 4.5/5

     

    The truth with film-making – as it is now on Broadway– Is that the story is everything. You’ve got to have a story.

     

    Broadway changed; it used to be: Boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets girl.

     

    When Gershwin, Cole Porter, and Rodgers were writing, they were writing a show every year. These shows came and went, came and went…So every year you would have twelve more songs from them. Well, chances are, you’re going to get a couple of hits every year.

     

    All of a sudden, the “story” in a musical became more important than the music. That’s why most hit shows, not all of them, but most hit musicals today – barring, say, Andrew Lloyd Webber – usually don’t have hit songs at all. You can’t really mention a hit song from most musicals, because with most musicals, it’s not about the music. - Marvin Hamlisch

     

    Marvin Hamlisch was not specifically referring to the Broadway musical 1776 when he made the above comments, but he could have been. The music by Sherman Edwards is pleasant but not particularly memorable. It is not the sort of musical which will have you humming any of its tunes after the closing credits have rolled by. However, as a historical drama (with some humorous scenes, to be sure) it works exceptionally well, even though anyone who is familiar with the Declaration of Independence knows how it turns out. It is the process through which the Founders agreed to declare independence from Great Britain which is so fascinating.

     

    John Adams (William Daniels) of Massachusetts is the firebrand who is trying to push the Continental Congress toward independence, but he finds himself to be continually frustrated. While he has the support of Benjamin Franklin (Howard Da Silva), Thomas Jefferson (Ken Howard) and John Hancock (David Ford), he is opposed by the delegation from the South and from Pennsylvania. Part of the problem is Adams' abrasive personality - even he comes to realize that he is disliked by many of the delegates.

     

    As temperatures in Philadelphia rise in early summer, Jefferson is feeling randy and is anxious to get home to his wife Martha (Blythe Danner) in Virginia. Jefferson speaks little but writes brilliantly, and he is persuaded to remain in Philadelphia to draft a declaration which clearly spells out the grievances which the colonists have against King George. However, he is so preoccupied with his absence from Martha that he develops writer's block. Franklin, who understands such things, sends for Martha to come to Philadelphia, which leads to several very amusing moments (Danner is charming as Martha, and I would have liked to have seen more of her in the film). Adams, of course, is married to Abigail (Virginia Vestoff), but she is back in Massachusetts attending to their farm and their children. They communicate by letter, but they correspond as if they are having conversations and that is how their exchanges are portrayed in the film. When they sing to each other their lyrics are largely based upon their actual letters.

     

    Most of the cast were members of the original Broadway cast, including William Daniels, who sings quite well. Howard Da Silva plays Ben Franklin a bit broadly, but he certainly looks the part. The rest of the cast performs exceedingly well and they do a fine job of re-creating the feel of the times.

     

    One thing not seen in this Blu-ray release is the 142-minute theatrical cut, which was the result of studio interference and political pressure. Some may be disappointed by its omission, but as Robert A. Harris puts it, "many of the film's delights had hit the cutting room floor" in order to release it at 142 minutes. Those additional delights have been restored for all to see. Even more delightful is the ability to see the full version of "Piddle, Twiddle and Resolve" in the Extended Cut of 1776. Director Hunt states that significant parts of the scene were cut "primarily, in fact, totally for time."

     

    From a purely historical standpoint, 1776 stands up well. One error is its suggestion that Jefferson's original draft of the Declaration of Independence would have condemned slavery outright. Biographers of Jefferson are in agreement that his intention was to condemn only the slave trade and blame it on King George. It is true that both South Carolina and Georgia were desirous of continuing the slave trade, so the deletion was necessary to have the Continental Congress approve the declaration.

     

    I encourage readers of this review to read Ronald Epstein's comments and interview with Peter H. Hunt for additional insights into this wonderful Blu-ray release.



    Video Rating: 5/5  3D Rating: NA

    This outstanding 1080p presentation utilizes the AVC codec and is framed at 2.35:1. The picture is highly detailed and very sharp. The color timing is excellent, black levels are inky, shadow detail is fine, and contrast is strong. There is not a hint of damage, and an appropriate level of film grain has been retained.

     

    Many readers of this review are going to want to have it compared to the prior laserdisc and DVD releases of 1776. I have not seen those versions, nor did I see the original theatrical release. Therefore I encourage you to read the words of our esteemed expert Robert A. Harris, as well as the many worthwhile comments by many Home Theater Forum members:

     

    A few words about...™ 1776 -- in Blu-ray



    Audio Rating: 5/5

    The DTS HD-MA 5.1 audio is every bit as good as the video. The musical numbers are done with outstanding fidelity and excellent separation. Every word of dialogue is clear and understandable, and both English and English SDH subtitles are available. English subtitles are available for the commentary tracks, as well.



    Special Features Rating: 4.5/5

    Fans of 1776 will be very pleased with the extras on this Blu-ray release.

     

    There are two commentary tracks available on the Director's Cut, both of which include Peter H. Hunt. Joining him on one commentary track are Williams Daniels and Ken Howard. On the other Hunt is joined by screenwriter Peter Stone. The commentaries provide many interesting insights into the making of the film. The exterior for Independence Hall was built in the San Fernando Valley, and on the night that they shot "Piddle, Twiddle and Resolve" it was so cold out that they could see William Daniels' breath while he sang. They solved the problem by having him suck on ice cubes before he sang!

     

    Viewers who listen to both commentaries will note that Hunt does repeat himself a bit, which is pretty much unavoidable.

     

    There are three deleted/alternate scenes and one alternate scene. One of the scenes, of course, is the aforementioned full "Piddle, Twiddle and Resolve," which is shown both with and without commentary by director Hunt. His commentary is limited to explaining that the scene was cut because he wanted to get into the story more quickly. Next is a short reprise of the "Lees of Old Virginia" scene which features Ron Holgate and Richard Henry Lee. The reprise also is shown with and without commentary by Peter Hunt. He explains that it was cut because he felt that it was too theatrical and that it interfered with advancing the plot. He also had reservations about it because it shows John Adams stepping into a fountain and stumbling about a bit. Lastly, there is the scene where Stephen Hopkins of Rhode Island (Roy Poole) arrives late to cast a decisive vote because the Continental Congress did not have its own "pisser." Apparently the word "pisser" was deemed to be objectionable in 1972, so it was changed to "privy." The original dialogue is now in the Director's Cut, but it is still "privy" in the Extended Cut.

     

    Also included are nine screen tests, featuring William Daniels, Howard Da Silva, William Hansen, Patrick Hines, Daniel Keyes, Leo Leyden, Ray Middleton, James Noble, and Rex Robbins. The screen tests are shown in an aspect ratio of 1.33:1. The colors are faded and the pictures in general shown signs of age, but they are watchable and surprisingly sharp.

     

    Finally, we have a teaser trailer (one minute) and the original theatrical trailer (three minutes, twelve seconds). The teaser trailer is shown in 2.35:1 and the theatrical trailer is shown in 1.85:1. Both trailers are in very good condition.



    Overall Rating: 4.5/5

    The many fans of 1776 have been clamoring for a Blu-ray release of the film for many years, and they have finally been rewarded with an outstanding one which is sure to please them. Sony, which for years has continually released exceptional Blu-rays, has outdone itself with this one. That fact that is has been reasonably priced helps to make it an easy Blu-ray to recommend for purchase.


    Reviewed By: Richard Gallagher


    Support HTF when you buy this title:

     
    Everett S., JoelA, Sam Posten and 3 others like this.
  2. Mike Frezon

    Mike Frezon Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2001
    Messages:
    52,402
    Likes Received:
    14,797
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Rensselaer, NY
    Richard:


    Many thanks! You join RAH and Ron in letting us know that we will not be disappointed in this release.


    As someone who had never seen the laser disc iterati0on of this film and had only the DVD version as reference, I am planning on rediscovering the film with all the additions that are coming the in the Blu-ray.


    What fun there will be in the Frezon household this coming week! :D
     
  3. Sam Posten

    Sam Posten Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 1997
    Messages:
    27,925
    Likes Received:
    5,009
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Aberdeen, MD & Navesink, NJ
    Real Name:
    Sam Posten
    Mine shipped, I know what I am doing tomorrow! Thanks for a fine review Richard, it's saying something that you made me even MORE anxious to get this disk!
     
  4. Moe Dickstein

    Moe Dickstein Filmmaker

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2001
    Messages:
    3,277
    Likes Received:
    929
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    West Hollywood, CA
    Real Name:
    T R Wilkinson
    Richard, thank you for the wonderful review.

    The reason for the commentary overlap is that the Stone track was recorded in 2002 for the DVD and the new track is an attempt to be the definitive track, the stone track was left on for historical purposes but it's not quite as good...
     
  5. Richard Gallagher

    Reviewer

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2001
    Messages:
    4,114
    Likes Received:
    1,072
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    Fishkill, NY
    Real Name:
    Rich Gallagher
    Thanks for that info. My feeling is that one could hardly expect a director to do two commentary tracks about the same film without repeating himself!
     
    Moe Dickstein likes this.
  6. David_B_K

    David_B_K Advanced Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2006
    Messages:
    2,037
    Likes Received:
    507
    Trophy Points:
    1,610
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    Real Name:
    David
    Now if someone will design some nice cover art with the original '1776’ font of the posters, soundtracks, etc.
     
  7. Moe Dickstein

    Moe Dickstein Filmmaker

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2001
    Messages:
    3,277
    Likes Received:
    929
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    West Hollywood, CA
    Real Name:
    T R Wilkinson
    David, we had hoped for that but Sony wisely decided to invest their limited budget in the content of the disc.
     
    MatthewA likes this.
  8. MatthewA

    MatthewA Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2000
    Messages:
    8,819
    Likes Received:
    2,462
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Salinas, CA
    Real Name:
    Matthew
    I got mine today. I guess I know how I'll be spending my Independence Day!
     
  9. David Weicker

    David Weicker Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2005
    Messages:
    3,432
    Likes Received:
    1,853
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Real Name:
    David
    I just scanned through my copy (full watching probably this weekend).


    However there seemed to be something off during the "Sit Down John" song. At times the orchestration drowned out the vocals.

    There is even a very prominent piccolo (or something close) during the start that is louder than the men. And the "are we going to open up a window? Can't we compromise here?" is very muffled.


    The picture looks great, but now I'm worried about the audio. Granted, its only a few minutes, and maybe I chose the wrong few minutes to sample.


    For the record, I am playing unaltered DTS-HD MSTR 5.1 through my AVR.
     
  10. David_B_K

    David_B_K Advanced Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2006
    Messages:
    2,037
    Likes Received:
    507
    Trophy Points:
    1,610
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    Real Name:
    David
    I had to do a lot of yard work last night, so I did not get to sample much of the Blu-ray. I mainly wanted to see how "Piddle Twiddle" came out, and was pleasantly surprised to see that all the footage matched so well; the sequence looked great.


    Just skipping around, I thought "Cool, Cool Considerate Men" had a curiously "hollow" sound. The vocals were not as prominent, and there was a sort of reverb to the voices. I didn't watch "Sit Down, John". Maybe the sound in that was similar to "Cool Cool"? I was also running DTS HD Master 5.1.
     
  11. Virgoan

    Virgoan Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2007
    Messages:
    511
    Likes Received:
    281
    Trophy Points:
    610
    Location:
    Oakland CA
    Real Name:
    Ron Pulliam
    David_B_K: I'm with you on that "hollow" sound. It wasn't just in "Cool, Cool Considerate Men".


    David Weicker: It's also not just you with concerns about "Sit Down, John". It sounds so much better on my LP soundtrack recording.


    I tried various settings trying to find the best aural presentation....plain old stereo did the trick rather than any surround alternatives. Still, I'd sometimes need to crank up the volume to hear what was being said after having lowered the volume for a song...so....mixed bag, aurally, for me.
     
  12. BarryR

    BarryR Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2000
    Messages:
    739
    Likes Received:
    164
    Trophy Points:
    610
    Location:
    Earth
    Real Name:
    BARRY RIVADUE
    Kind of odd Ron Holgate is featured twice on the cover and William Daniels and Howard Da Silva not at all!
     
  13. David_B_K

    David_B_K Advanced Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2006
    Messages:
    2,037
    Likes Received:
    507
    Trophy Points:
    1,610
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    Real Name:
    David
    I listened to 'Cool, Cool' in its entirety. The hollow sound only occurs in the section following the exchange between Hancock and Dickinson. I'm sure it was intentional.
     
  14. Richard Gallagher

    Reviewer

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2001
    Messages:
    4,114
    Likes Received:
    1,072
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    Fishkill, NY
    Real Name:
    Rich Gallagher
    Yes, that cover is uninspired, to put mildly.
     
  15. JohnMor

    JohnMor Producer
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2004
    Messages:
    5,024
    Likes Received:
    2,162
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Los Angeles, CA
    Real Name:
    John Moreland
    But of course the main character of the piece is prominently featured: Martha Jefferson! ;)
     
  16. bujaki

    bujaki Producer

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2012
    Messages:
    4,160
    Likes Received:
    3,536
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    Richardson, TX
    Real Name:
    Jose Ortiz-Marrero
    Is there any one lovelier, more attractive, and more distracting, as well as inspiring (to wit, Jefferson), in the whole film?
     
  17. noel aguirre

    noel aguirre Supporting Actor
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2011
    Messages:
    637
    Likes Received:
    279
    Trophy Points:
    610
    Location:
    New York City
    Real Name:
    noel
    Just finished watching extended version and enjoyed it. Glad I bought it. My thoughts:

    1.) Starts weak. Songs not memorable- I expected at least one. Nothing.

    2.) Acting is superb- a real treat to see most of the original Bway cast, unlike most film musicals. I write this as HD Mame is about to show on TCM for the first time ever (DVR'd it -quick viewing this morning).

    3.) Beautifully photographed (even though on ugly early 1970's stock)- Harry Stradling can do no wrong.

    4.) Costumes are great- though appear to made from 1970's polyester! But well done.


    Conclusion: Basically I agree with Vincent Canby's review:

    http://www.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=980de1d7113def34bc4852dfb7678389669ede
     
  18. davidmatychuk

    davidmatychuk Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2012
    Messages:
    2,031
    Likes Received:
    3,140
    Trophy Points:
    1,610
    Location:
    Vancouver, B.C.
    Real Name:
    David Matychuk
    Watching the "All Good Things" Blu-Ray the other night I noticed a prominent framed Playbill featuring "1776" (in that lovely original font) on the wall in a couple of New York City restaurant scenes.
     
  19. Ronald Epstein

    Ronald Epstein Founder
    Owner

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 1997
    Messages:
    54,981
    Likes Received:
    10,640
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Ronald Epstein
    It *seems* the 4k extended cut is now available on iTunes

    I am not positive, but the running time at 165 minutes would indicate this is the extended. But until someone verifies, I am cautious.
     
    Darby67 likes this.
  20. Robert Crawford

    Robert Crawford Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 1998
    Messages:
    46,100
    Likes Received:
    21,847
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Michigan
    Real Name:
    Robert
    Ron,@Ronald Epstein

    I have "1776" in my digital library at iTunes. The "Director's Cut" version that runs 165 minutes is 4K, but it doesn't have HDR. I didn't buy this digital, but it was a digital code that I redeemed from when I bought the 2015 Blu-ray. Another thing, the "Extended Cut" version that is also on that 2015 Blu-ray and runs almost 168 minutes is not available digitally on iTunes or Vudu. Only the "Director's Cut" is available on both services. By the way, I verified the run times by actually streaming the digital and playing the Blu-ray.
     
    Darby67 and Josh Steinberg like this.

Share This Page