14ga for a 50ft run OK?

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  1. JohnMW

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    Can't tell how many strands per conductor there are in the 4 conductor 14 Ga. wire, and it doesn't show many of the other specs that might tell you how good it is, but 14 Ga. is plenty beefy enough to go 50 ft, especially for rear speaker applications. It's quite possible that the 4 conductor stuff is actually better sounding audio cable than the 12 Ga. that Home Depot has and it's going to be a lot easier to install. I think you found "The Right Stuff"
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    Thanks for the reply. I am going to be using Paradigm Studio 80's up front, CC center, and 40's in the rear. I want to bi-wire all of them.
    I hope that AR cable will do the job well.
     
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    I am running 16 for 50 feet and I don't find any difference.
     
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    John: I'm sorry to rain on your parade, but I cannot back you up on this one.
    Try this: disconnect your front 3 speakers. Pop in a favorite DVD, turn off the TV and sit down in the room with a book/newspaper.
    Try and time how often the rear speakers make sound. My guess is they will only make sound 20-30% of the time. And how often do critical/important-to-the-movie sounds come from the rears? (Hint: never). Could this explain why some people use 16 ga and claim it sounds fine - there is just not a lot of signal to allow people to notice the difference?
    Do you really want to spend $$$ x 3 for something that only makes sound 20-30% of the time? And only non-critical/effect sounds at that?
    (Dont forget you need to run a set of wires for a rear-center speaker as well. Thats why I said "x 3".)
    It's your money and you can spend it however you want. (And I'm NOT against over-building. I do this myself. [​IMG])
    But you are talking a 2X factor to wire up the least-used, least-important speakers in your system. (Thats 2x to bi-wire, plus 1x for the rear center times 50 feet.)
    I'm afraid it's going to be a LOT of money for a fractional/un-noticible improvement in sound.
    Good Luck.
     
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    John, I think Bob has some valid points.
    But addressing your original question: If you are bi-wiring your speakers, it seems like dual 14ga. wiring is the functional equivalent of single-wiring with 12ga.
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    [Edited last by Wayne A. Pflughaupt on November 01, 2001 at 11:12 PM]
     
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    I run Radio Shack CL2 In-Wall 16Ga to my rears AND I DO get
    sound out of them 100% of the time (when in All Ch Stereo)
    and it sounds terrific on 16Ga. My cable runs are roughly
    40 or so feet.
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    Thanks so much for the positive replies guys. [​IMG]
     
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    If I go with the Studio 100's up front, should I consider 12ga home depot wire w/ bannanas or use the dual 14ga AR wire that I will be using for the rear speakers?
    [Edited last by John M Welch on November 04, 2001 at 10:56 PM]
     
  10. Brett DiMichele

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    John,
    go to http://www.partsexpress.com
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    If you're running in-wall you'll need to choose a cable that meets code in which case the AR should fit the bill. As to biwiring...well...at least its relatively inexpensive.
     

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