1.78:1. Will this ever be the standard for movies?

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  1. Troy LaMont

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    I know that the director and cinematographer like to choose which scope ratio will be best suited for their needs, but going forward with the standard ratio for widescren TVs and HD, will we ever see a standard aspect ratio?

    If all movies were to be shot in 1.78:1 HD, that would be very sweet, especially when it's converted over to (hopefully) HD DVD or SD DVD.

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    Why would that be "sweet"? What's inherently sweet about the 1.78 AR? Why should a filmmaker think in terms of how his movie will look on a TV set, instead of on a movie screen?
     
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    It would be sweet because it will fill up his widescreen, duh.
     
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    Since the movie industry changed from 1.37:1 in order to make movies look different from TV, why on earth would they start making new movies look like the new TVs?
     
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    Well, perhaps because movie studios weren't producing TV product (and certainly didn't own TV stations and networks) back when they changed ratios. It now makes more economic sense for them to make their product "portable".

    Not that I want it to happen, just that it's good motivation for the studios to do so.
     
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    I like having a different shape for my movies than my TV shows. I love the 2.35:1 ratio. I'm not too worried about having to "put up" with black bars when I watch my DVD's since I know that watching them on a TV screen isn't how they were meant to be seen. Sure, a lot of people will only see movies on their TV's, but that's their misfortune for missing the big screen experience.

     
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    Can't wait for the complaints to come into the HD TV manufacturers. "You mean I bought a widescreen TV and I am still getting black bars. Can't you make a TV that doesn't do that?"
     
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    Well, 1.78:1 is so close to 1.85:1 that it practically makes no difference.

    I guess 1.85:1 will stay as a standard AR for quite some time...
     
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    Rather tham forcing filmmakers to shoot movies just so people don't see "black bars", it would be better to have a variable anamorphic squeeze so that you could always get the full vertical resolution.

    In other words, have the technology serve the art, NOT vice versa, as some people seem to want.
     
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    Yes!
     
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    If anything, expect 2.35:1 to become more standard as people buy widescreen sets, in attempt to keep viewers going to the movies. I also expect to see more IMAX features as well in the future.
     
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    I personally don't believe 1.78:1 will ever become standard for the movies. I like the widescreen aspect ration myself.
     
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    Unfortunately, once J6P upgrades to 16:9 TVs, he's still gonna want his screen filled. I've seen this in showrooms and on Hometheater Spot, asking why there are STILL black bars on the screen.
     
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    Hold the phone! Filmmakers make films with the theater in mind FIRST AND FOREMOST.
    This is a terrible idea. Why should a filmmakers hands be tied to one ratio just to fill up peoples 16x9's? If a director wants to shoot his film in the 2.35:1 ratio, he should be allowed to do so, period and without hesitation.
    What, are we going to start making movies to please 16x9 owners now? No way! I love films with wide sweeping vistas, and great cinematography, and their's no way i'll stand for having that taken away! I'll stop watching films altogether first!
    Close your eyes and try to imagine that George Lucas films the next two 'Star Wars' films in 1.78:1 and tell me if you still think this is a good idea. Not a pretty sight is it?
    I'll tell you, when the day comes that every filmmaker starts making their films worrying about how it will look on a television screen, is the day the art of cinema officially dies.
     
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    I'm sorry, but I felt compelled to post again. I'm so sick of everyone trying to come up with ways we can please the sixpackers and fill their screens. When this starts, they have won. They now have got what they wanted, EVERY film now fits nice and snug on their screens. And what do we have? No more beautifuly shot films like 'Braveheart', 'Star Wars', or even 'Ben Hur'. In short, we lose.
    "Compromise"?, SELLOUT is the word I would use to describe this scenario.
    I'm o.k. now.[​IMG]
     
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    I know films make a lot of money with video rights.
    But the studios aren't exactly crying on their way to the bank with the cinema takes either.
    Film is about the theater. Everything else is gravy.
    I can literally hear Vertov rolling in his grave right now.
    "The Man with a Video Camera" [​IMG]
     

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