1:66 on 16x9 TV

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  1. Peter Neski

    Peter Neski Supporting Actor

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    One problem with 16x9 sets is widescreen movies which
    are not 16x9.Then you get a large window box effect.

    While comparing The tcm's showing of The comformist(1:66?)
    to the Japanese 16x9 dvd,I noticed cropping of some
    of the picture,on the top and Bottom of the dvd,

    It was a little,
    nothing like the cropping on the Apocalype now dvd
    But still it bothered me.
    I noticed that the first three James Bond films are
    a little tight in 16X9 and would be better in 1.66:1

    But can they fix this with some kind of window boxing
    in the 16x9 version?
    Same is true with the 16x9 Dr Strangelove,I am not
    sure whats correct with this,but I end up watching in 16x9
    because thats what my TV is

    Peter
     
  2. Patrick McCart

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    Well, a lot of 1.66:1 films are correctly presented a 1.66:1 anamorphic. A Hard Day's Night (Miramax), Dr. Strangelove (40th anniv 2-disc), Mary Poppins, The Crawling Eye (Image Entertainment European Edition), Friendly Persuasion (yes, WB has used 1.66:1 16x9!), F for Fake (Criterion), Mickey's Christmas Carol (Mickey in Color Vol. 2), etc.
     
  3. Mark Zimmer

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    For such things I use my Malata N996 with variable zoom. [​IMG] Very handy indeed for 1.66:1
     
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    Exactly, Mark. My Malata's zoom feature makes A Clockwork Orange and Barry Lyndon look great on my 16:9 TV. [​IMG]
     
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    I'm finally going to try and track down a player with variable zoom. I know a few of the well-known Malata models are out of production. Can anyone recommend a brand and/or vendor for this purpose?

    Any help is appreciated.
     
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    Zoom????????

    Oh no... [​IMG]

    Mike
     
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    Michael,

    Is there a better way to handle non-16:9 enchanced 1.66:1 on a 16:9 RPTV? By better way I mean not just simply watching in windowboxed.

    I got the impression people were using variable zoom from a player to back the picture out a little when using the TV's proportinate zoom typically used for non-16:9 enhanced 1.85:1 material.

    Please enlighten me! [​IMG]
     
  8. Mark Zimmer

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    Yeah, what's the problem with using zoom to increase the size of a windowboxed 1.66:1 so that it's properly pillarboxed on a widescreen set?
     
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    I think he thought that the "zoom" comment was about blowing up a pillar-boxed 1.66:1 to crop the top/bottom to get rid of the bars on the sides.

    This thread is sort of confusing because half the time people are talking about 4x3 1.66:1 and the other half they are talking about 16x9 1.66:1 and it's never clear when it's switching back and forth.

    Here's how the world ought to be:

    All 1.66:1 movies get transfered in 16x9 and preserve OAR with small vertical pillarboxing bars on the left/right.

    But for those that don't (Warner Brothers...ggrrrr)....

    It would be cool if DVD players and 16x9 display had a special "1.66:1 zoom" mode for 4x3-letterboxed-1.66:1 DVDs from so rather than watching the movie with black on all 4 sides on your 16x9 display or the standard 1.85:1 zoom wich would crop noticable picture off the top/bottom of the 1.66:1 image, they could just zoom it to the point where the 1.66:1 image touches the top/bottom of the screen leaving a small left/right pillarboxing bar of unused horizontal space.

    That's the "good zooming" that's being talked about.
     
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    Does anyone know if the new Clockwork Orange disc will be 16:9 enhanced? Has Warner finally caught up with other studios when it comes to proper handling of 1.66:1 material?

    -Lyle J.P.
     
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    That's what I would really like to find out from the Warner chat.
     

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