1:66 on 16x9 TV (1 Viewer)

[Peter Neski]

One problem with 16x9 sets is widescreen movies which
are not 16x9.Then you get a large window box effect.

While comparing The tcm's showing of The comformist(1:66?)
to the Japanese 16x9 dvd,I noticed cropping of some
of the picture,on the top and Bottom of the dvd,

It was a little,
nothing like the cropping on the Apocalype now dvd
But still it bothered me.
I noticed that the first three James Bond films are
a little tight in 16X9 and would be better in 1.66:1

But can they fix this with some kind of window boxing
in the 16x9 version?
Same is true with the 16x9 Dr Strangelove,I am not
sure whats correct with this,but I end up watching in 16x9
because thats what my TV is

Peter

 

[Patrick McCart]

Well, a lot of 1.66:1 films are correctly presented a 1.66:1 anamorphic. A Hard Day's Night (Miramax), Dr. Strangelove (40th anniv 2-disc), Mary Poppins, The Crawling Eye (Image Entertainment European Edition), Friendly Persuasion (yes, WB has used 1.66:1 16x9!), F for Fake (Criterion), Mickey's Christmas Carol (Mickey in Color Vol. 2), etc.

 

[Mark Zimmer]

For such things I use my Malata N996 with variable zoom. Very handy indeed for 1.66:1

 

[Richard Kim]

Exactly, Mark. My Malata's zoom feature makes A Clockwork Orange and Barry Lyndon look great on my 16:9 TV.

 

[Andrew Bunk]

I'm finally going to try and track down a player with variable zoom. I know a few of the well-known Malata models are out of production. Can anyone recommend a brand and/or vendor for this purpose?

Any help is appreciated.

 

[Michael Osadciw]

Zoom????????

Oh no...

Mike

 

[Andrew Bunk]

Michael,

Is there a better way to handle non-16:9 enchanced 1.66:1 on a 16:9 RPTV? By better way I mean not just simply watching in windowboxed.

I got the impression people were using variable zoom from a player to back the picture out a little when using the TV's proportinate zoom typically used for non-16:9 enhanced 1.85:1 material.

Please enlighten me!

 

[Mark Zimmer]

Yeah, what's the problem with using zoom to increase the size of a windowboxed 1.66:1 so that it's properly pillarboxed on a widescreen set?

 

[DaViD Boulet]

I think he thought that the "zoom" comment was about blowing up a pillar-boxed 1.66:1 to crop the top/bottom to get rid of the bars on the sides.

This thread is sort of confusing because half the time people are talking about 4x3 1.66:1 and the other half they are talking about 16x9 1.66:1 and it's never clear when it's switching back and forth.

Here's how the world ought to be:

All 1.66:1 movies get transfered in 16x9 and preserve OAR with small vertical pillarboxing bars on the left/right.

But for those that don't (Warner Brothers...ggrrrr)....

It would be cool if DVD players and 16x9 display had a special "1.66:1 zoom" mode for 4x3-letterboxed-1.66:1 DVDs from so rather than watching the movie with black on all 4 sides on your 16x9 display or the standard 1.85:1 zoom wich would crop noticable picture off the top/bottom of the 1.66:1 image, they could just zoom it to the point where the 1.66:1 image touches the top/bottom of the screen leaving a small left/right pillarboxing bar of unused horizontal space.

That's the "good zooming" that's being talked about.

 

[Lyle_JP]

Does anyone know if the new Clockwork Orange disc will be 16:9 enhanced? Has Warner finally caught up with other studios when it comes to proper handling of 1.66:1 material?

-Lyle J.P.

 

[Vincent-P]

That's what I would really like to find out from the Warner chat.