*sigh* For people who think the setting was purgatory, the stage is that those who are there are obviously appearing after death and are not sure where they are headed. Despite those who argue the reverse, I've been back through the first three seasons in the off summer, and I do feel a lot...
Argh, I said I would check back and I won't go into a huge debate, but thought I'd add in with this. "Purgatory" has had lots of historical meanings for those that believe in it. (See several posts I've had before on different theological views on purgatory, which vary greatly). But the rundown...
I think I'll check out of the thread. I recognize others have their opinions. I have come to realize, as I have said, that should I accept the alternate opinion, at least to me, this entire series falls into one of the most laughable disasters of a series ever thrown on TV. I simply would...
I realized only later that this post referenced things that happened 3 years ago. This of course, was long before they had ditched so many plotlines that went nowhere. What they thought at that point (Season 3) and how it ended up don't necessarily have to mean anything :) Writers can...
Again, like I said, I'm glad people have that interpretation, and they find those who back it, including the way the authors wrote it. I'm just saying I will prefer my interpretation (and those who follow it, of which apparently based on google is a bunch) because wow, it to me is the...
Josh. I'm willing to buy into your idea. That they referenced so many religious and other icons of faith, up tot he every end scene with the stain glass windows. But they took an interpretation of Purgatory that exists in absolutely no faith at all, and they have just decided Purgatory is LA...
I have a hard time buying just a random blogspot blog is anybody of any importance, and if he did work for Bad Robot, he probably doesn't now, since they've said it's their policy not to comment, and so he's the dumbest person imaginable for throwing away a job at this moment as a writer...
Ah, bam! Found it, I'll be damned, "Bing" found it but I couldn't come up with it in Google.. http://danteworlds.laits.utexas.edu/purgatory/01antepurgatory.html
In fact, if you believe in the Canto as Dante implied it, then it takes a soul to lead his people from purgatory out, as Moses...
I thought the Oceanic Six was the most open interpretation that some had forced their way on, to move on into acceptance of their position.. when they did, seemingly miraculous things happened. The wolrd worshipped them. They encountered tons of money. Their wishes were fulfilled, a child was...
Actually, love Donnie Darko.. I though, take the simple view, I really like the director's interpretation a lot.. that Darko is empowered to close a tangent universe in order to save the real one, and has a limited time period to do it with. I really enjoyed Darko, BTW. I tend to like films...
Aarid, I'm really concerned as to why this matters to you so much to defend your line of thought against a different viewpoint when we both enjoyed the series (?) But, (1) Ok, which flashbacks, reflective on their life, specifically disprove that there were in purgatory, or more to the...
Polar Bears: No. You can't assert they suddenly live in warm weather or were brought by Dharma when they were never seen in the events of the past. Walking Dead: No, they weren't all MIB, in fact, many who spoke to Hurley, etc. were crucial in them finding their way. Infertility: If...
I have watched every single episode of LOST. I appreciate it differently then you do. But I find I am baffled why it is so imperative for you to view any opposing opinion as "wrong". So, let me take this to a different place. I have no contradiction at all with the flashbacks in relation...
No apologies needed! The debate is good! It's why I love this forum :) As far as reclaiming their life.. then again, I'm the one saying as life is to the show, their soul moves on :) And no, the show is never easy.. But we haven't spent a lot of time debating the other way, I've spent...
I say to you this;
And in the 1642 Counsel of Jassy (Eastern Orthodox) it is the works of those and the power of the cross that carries those from purgatory to heaven. That their acts within purgatory would be judged by the creator to advance them to heaven. Catholics view this slightly...
He did absolutely no such thing. He told them that it was REAL. Then again, in previous seasons, we were told that Hell is REAL, so being REAL doesn't necessarily mean anything in reference to where they were. Any more then saying they were "REALLY" in a place where they found each other...
Why does that matter at all? In fact, the fact that some are aware of what happens doesn't really change much at all. I assume if they wanted, they could read the daily paper. I think some are stuck on the concept that Purgatory = some ethereal, unexplanable completely disconnected with...
There was no purgatory after purgatory. They completed their task. They were ready to move on. The only thing that prevented them from entering the next phase was themselves, not their own issues. They had already moved into the afterlife, they just had to find acceptance. Again, from a...
I get your viewpoint too. It's odd, I see a lot of people on both sides. I guess for me it just clicks the one way, maybe too much of a bow because then wild time swings and the existance of things like Polar Bears etc. is not a problem :) But I respect your viewpoint too. I think a big...
Why would it be all in their minds? In many religious mythos (Catholicism, Islam, Mormon) the existance of a purgatory as a matter of trials to overcome as our acceptance of fate is a significant one. And, come on, the links are so obvious I'm struggling that everyone thinks the opinion is...
No. Wow, we go through all of this talk for seasons about the links to Christianity and faith, etc. The flashback for all of them is the things that they remembered together as they gained acceptance. If this is really steeped in Christian mythos, then the death of the physical body is not...
I don't understand why it matters if anything on the island happened "In reality" It happened to them, for real, as part of their journey to the afterlife. Whether it happened in the reality of the living or not is kind of a pointless matter. Who does it matter to at all except for those...
Yes, JJ says so.. more then 2 years ago, but writing can change a great deal, and they obviously didn't have the series finale written. Like I said, we will agree to disagree. I understand your viewpoint, I just don't accept it, just as you won't accept mine. Neither are right or wrong...
Yes, Penny, Rousseau.. all of them died in different ways, however, they were all brought there, this was purgatory for them. Desmond needed to believe he was needed; he never felt as though he lived up to his role. He was "needed" to push the button or bad things would happen. He was "needed"...
*shrug* I don't know, I find it ridiculous that everyone else is reaching to not see it that way, when the final shot was of the island with no encampments, no sign of any settlements that they had ever been there, a long shot of exploded plane all over the beach. I just kind of feel as though...
Why is it surprising that some died long after? I don't know how that impacts things either. If time is relative (and we've seen this) then how do we know how long Jack and his voyage on the island was, or when anyone died? I thought the whole point of the episodes dedicated to Richard was...
How did he lie to Jack at all? He told Jack they had died. Some at different times then others, etc. Which is all a matter of perspective. For all they know, some of the people, especially those they had met on the "Island" (purgatory) who became his friend, like Juliette, could have been...
How do we know at least one of them didn't know Ben in real life? But whether they did or didn't, none of them knew each other in real life, outside of the shared experience of the plane flight, which was too brief for them to learn each others life story. Purgatory is huge. The island was...
What makes you think that? Almost all of them had let go of their former life on the island. In 6 seasons, how often did you here long discussions about someone not on the island, a husband or wife they were heartbroken over? They met all of these people in purgatory. Ben and many had...