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awsome ill check those forms out and learn a few things (i am new to this after all) ^.^....on a side offtopic note just curious to why you say pyle is so bad the amp i got looks puny and unreliable (probably will fry runing there own subs -.-) but the subs actualy look and feel quite good.

meh ive heard pyle is decent i dont got $500 for a woofer sooo...ill start out small and upgrade and if u take jl which is expensive and "high quality" the only difrence noticible (besides cone strength and mabye frequency) would be in order to get "pyle" to sound "close" to jl i would...

im over thinking the whole thing or somthing -.- any ways the curent box i have planed for two 12" 1200 watt pyle subwoofer is 36 inches long 15 high 24 deep...............im confused to weather that comes to 7.5ft cubed of air space or 1.98 cubic feet anyways i need some help on building...