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I don't think I ever got a prebuilt pc which didn't have crapware coming with it. Most of the time, the crapware was easy to disable (or delete) by hand. The most annoying crapware I had to deal with, were trial copies of mcafee antivirus which would repeatedly spawn every time I killed the...

Same here. Most of my "rebuilt" desktops, is putting together scrap parts I have accumulated over the years from old computers given to me. I usually end up running Linux or one of the BSDs as the operating system on these rebuilt units, and not m$ windoze nor maco$

This is what I would do nowadays. My next desktop will likely end up like this. The old style hard drive will be largely a drive for backup of personal files and some system stuff (such as c:/windows). Currently I use external hard drives to do periodic backups of personal files.

(Speaking in terms of hypotheticals). The only scenario I would ever buy a "refurbished" desktop computer, is if the hard drive is brand new. I generally don't trust second handed hard drives under any circumstances.

Also nowadays I wouldn't "build" my own machine anymore, unless you're a hardcore videogamer who requires the cutting edge best hardware performance.

With a lifetime experience of being given a lot of older machines, I have come to the conclusion that refurbished computers are largely a waste of time and cash. In addition to headaches of troubleshooting vagarities of older hardware. Easier and less headaches just buying a new desktop machine.