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  1. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Well, they never got the filming stage of those two, so out of what was filmed, they made their scheduling choices. Turnabout Intruder, which was the final episode shot, was pre-empted and then held back until the very last day the series was on the schedule (in a new time slot - which made no...
  2. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Yes! I remember that!
  3. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Did Harve Bennett really watch all 79 episodes? In some discussions I've had on other forums, there's skepticism over how much research he actually did before taking over the film franchise. Mostly because there's some debate over who Kirk was referring to at the end of Star Trek V: "I had a...
  4. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Yeah that second ad seems like kid's art. Oy vey. Star Trek hit syndication in NY and PA the Monday after it left NBC in 1969. WPIX 11 in NY ran it in production order the first weekday after Turnabout Intruder aired on the network. But it took a couple of years for it to really take off.
  5. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Oh, I heard her laugh. It's probably because of that crewmember that's in a questionable position just about at Kirk's waist.
  6. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Yeah I think I saw you then. I was surprised there wasn't more of a fan / cosplay turnout. Or more audience interaction. I have to admit, I was relieved when certain moments went by without laughter. At the same time, disappointed there was no round of cheers when Kirk did his "Khan!" scream...
  7. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    That was my exact thought when I read that. The Voyage Home is wayyyyyyy down my list of favorite Trek movies.
  8. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Yeah I'm 10 minutes from CAC - same town. I'm sure we can set something up. Besides, every so often they run a classic SF film. I saw the original Planet of the Apes there back in September. Ha, facts. There was more than one Starfleet officer in attendance.
  9. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Yep I was there! Flannel shirt, no hair, Khan tank top. 🤣 Sorry I didn't know you were there. Would have been fun to chat in person. Good crowd, too. The film hits different with an audience. I try to see every Fathom and indie showing of it. I prefer the theatrical cut but any version is a joy.
  10. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Jeezus Josh were you there???!!! I just saw this now and I was at the showing. I would have LOVED to have met you!
  11. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Yes that's pretty much correct. "The Cage" was an earlier title of the pilot, Roddenberry's original outline (as reprinted in The Making of Star Trek). It also carried the title "The Next Cage" and then "The Menagerie." Once the two-parter claimed that name, the original pilot was re-christened...
  12. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Funnily enough, I was at a cinema screening of it last night. Yes, and the implication (visually) is that it used the nebula matter to help create the Genesis planet.
  13. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    That was the least of my problems with Picard. :laugh: I really don't rate any of the original series "last episodes" as season finales simply because they weren't what we call finales. Just episodes that aired last. None of them were great: "Operation: Annihilate!" is the best by default, not...
  14. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Well, keep in mind that season finale's were much different then. Often, they were black holes where networks dumped weaker episodes. Unlike today, where a season finale is a bigger deal, the culmination of an arc or, before serialization became the norm, cliffhangers to hook people to come back...
  15. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    I like the premise of the A:E series and taken as a pilot, I find it fun. It wouldn't have been any more varied than The Invaders, but Robert Lansing and Teri Garr would have been a pleasure to watch every week. Backdoor pilots are rarely, if ever, good episodes of the series they're shoved...
  16. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Well, you're obviously not a fan of The Time Tunnel. :laugh: Well, not counting the music.
  17. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Those were so new at the time, I think a lot of them were first seen by the general public via this episode. The stages detaching and igniting looks amazing. That footage is my favorite part of the episode
  18. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Perhaps not, but that's generally what it's been tagged as since it's an early edit with tighter pacing and some trims that never made it back into the current versions. Anyways, whatever we wanna call it, Paramount could have released it as is.
  19. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Funny they say this: The rest of the footage had been lost. Roddenberry did have a copy of the complete episode but it was a black-and-white workprint, with a rough soundtrack. So Paramount took the only option available: Well, not only... They never considered actually just releasing the...
  20. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    I never heard that. They didn't really have a plan. The 6th was meant to be the last with the classic cast. Unless you're thinking of the Academy movie that was never made, which was supposed to be made after Star Trek V.
  21. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Well, that's what Landau said, and it's been repeated ad nauseum in magazines and online forever, but Nimoy was always the choice and Landau was never actually offered the part. In fact: https://www.facttrek.com/blog/insearchofspock Here are the relevant bits: Space: 1964 Another name that’s...
  22. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    How about this one? For the summer of 1984, all 7 times I saw Star Trek III, this bad boy greeted me at my local RKO. To this day, I still say "no talking....pleeeeeze!" Now I'm looking to create the 1984 theater experience for this movies. :)
  23. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    I did think of Vulcan, but only in the sense of the third movie, which was always my favorite, so this clip just hits me right in the feels.
  24. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    This is kinda sorta Star Trek related. I ran into this on line and it always brings me back and reminds me of Star Trek. Why? Because this was the intro to the coming attractions as I waited for Star Trek IV to start (all 5 times I saw it in the theater) and also because the music is very...
  25. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    I have dozens of problems with the movie and the director's cut is laughable, but it's still the best way to end the series. A lovely wrap up to the original series that ties up some lingering threads without sinking deep into Picard Season 3 style fanwank and continual Easter Eggs. I did a...
  26. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Yeah, he screened it days before his death. He also gave comments on the script, which were generally negative. He honestly didn't like any of them after he was made a mere consultant.
  27. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    I've been around only since the early syndication days, being born in 1967, but I can't remember a point in my life without Star Trek. I wasn't aware of fandom beyond Starlog and Enterprise Incidents and a couple of reference books, but whenever I did read of the best of's in those days, City...
  28. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Shatner was fine, but even in the aired version, they didn't give him a lot to work with. Other than her looks and the fact that she seemed to have "gifted insight" what was so special about her? WHY did he fall in love? I couldn't even tell if she felt the same. If Kirk didn't let her die at...
  29. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    Yes, I remember you mentioning that. You must've been a lucky outlier. All of the copies I have and have ever had on VHS and laser disk had the replacement music. You didn't have to feel our pain.
  30. ScottRE

    Scott Atwell Star Trek Discussion thread (Series and Films)

    A lot of fans seem to feel that way, but honestly, Kirk had like a dozen women after Edith, even got married and conceived a kid before she died. I know that's the nature of episodic TV, but I still felt Kirk/Kirok's relationship with Miramanee was more "real" than Edith because we saw it grow...
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