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yeah thats a good $30-50 savings on ebay demodulators are still a bit more than what im looking to spend the sony and yamaha sound processors usually go for a good chunk cheaper than that

Im looking for a surround processor that has rf demodulation built in such as the yamaha ddp-1, sony sdp-e800, sony sdp-ep9es (prob too expensive), pioneer sp-99d (prob too expensive), or any other model that has rf demodulation as these units all seem to sell for less than rf demodulators...