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Then bounce is your best bet,

Mounted to walls

Did you run Audessey? It sounds like you did not runAudessey

Gotcha. I'd venture that the best to worst choices are, in order: Direct in ceiling SVS Prime Elevation https://www.svsound.com/products/prime-elevation That weird cabinet thing you are noodling Upfiring I say that not having heard the elevations. Sam

Yeah SVS has something even better if that’s what you are thinking, called Prime Elevation. But wall mount Atmos are a compromise too. The sound is supposed to be directly overhead not from off in some corner somewhere.

I find audessey does a good job but if you juice the Atmos speakers slightly you won’t really harm anything

Seems I’ll advised to make a critical judgement about the effect without having done a 5 minute calibration. As I said the effect is subtle but if it’s not doing anything at all for you something is wrong. If your choice is 7.1 versus 5.1.2 you should try both with calibration

Did you run Audessey?

Andrew Jones, Sony and Klipsh. Whatever you can get for $100. Don’t over spend. The effect is nice (I have 2 rigs of them) but isn’t really laser focused discrete sound you can pinpoint until you go full fat 4+ downfiring