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Beautiful, please copy and paste that to the owners thread!

Via Q23: Last of Us Story DLC: play as Ellie in a prequel - trailer Destiny beta coming to ps4/3 first - trailer Infamous: Second Son - release date 3/21/14 - trailer I watched the spike show last night and it was actually not terrible!

Sometimes their system backlogs, don't fret until tomorrow.

That ain't right....

Nope, no movie support at launch. See the other thread.

Debut on late night:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hUUsqhetX4Fun stuff.

Via Q23 poster Wendellius. OUCH on Knack!

Encouraging:http://penny-arcade.com/report/article/less-expensive-more-powerful-not-quite-ready-for-a-review-par-talks-playsta?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Damning with faint praise:http://www.polygon.com/a/ps4-review/conclusion

Yup, Killzone looks pretty.

So who got in on the Amazon and Target B2G1 today? I got Killzone, Knack and Lego Marvel headed my way on disk, and I'm getting Ghosts and Assassins Creed 4 via digital "upgrade" which nets me the title for both my PS3 and for the Ps4 to hit friday. 5 games on launch day plus all the free...

Pretty impressive list of free stuff at launch when you think about it, via NEOGAF. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=711715

Zombie Studio's Blacklight Retribution. Not sure on this one, but it's free to play...

Bunch of Warframe bonuses if you pre-order this free game (I know, I know):http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/11/07/warframe-ps4-pre-order-bonuses-detailed/you can use your PS3 or the web link.If you are PS+ you get Resogun for free, here's what it looks...

Also, while the breakdown removes the hard disk after the seals are broken I am told it is actually much easier to do it, same as on PS3. Remove a cover and it's exposed for easy replacement.

2 posts above yours, with the commentary page that goes with that video. =)News today, you get 30 days of plus, $10 in PSN credit and some of their streaming junk credit too.http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/08/sony-gifts-ps4-owners-store-music-credit/

It's pre-day1, they made a mistake on not supporting non streaming media better, it will be rectified.If you are in their shoes do you support the things that are going to lead to more games and services being paid for or do you fix the stuff that adds no value to you? If it's me I fix that...

Netflix in, of course, Vudu support a surprise for you UV fans (blech!) but no HBO Go, no Youtube App.

Wired has the full unboxing and teardown to bare metal. Looks like a bitch to simply replace the hard disk (which is allowed). It's under seals tho, whats up with that?http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/11/ps4-gallery/http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/11/playstation4-teardown-video/Mark Cerny...

Nice to see Sony following Apple's lead and seriously reducing the packaging that systems ship in: 10 days to go!

Sharing rules: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/26/5030872/sony-clarifies-ps4-game-sharing-rules-ahead-of-launch

My controller has been shipped, apparently they are in stores now, and work fine with the PS3. Big ass patch day one, no big deal, right? http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/

Thanks Matt!

Lesser known facts:

First public hands on at SDCC: http://t.co/MGO6AJIP4X

It's about tradeoffs. I'll take 9 million developers being able to get a super box at 100% of its potential over 100 developers maybe eaking out 100% of the potential of a super super box any day.

Humbling, long, discussion by Marc Cerny regarding the failures of PS3 which informed the development of PS4: http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/28/playstation-through-the-years-mark-cerny-on-the-ps4s-roots-and/

Matt: Yep my "Good to know" was in referencing that I got my order in on time for a day 1 delivery. I should, I was refreshing Amazon like mad the second the price was official and I didn't stop until the order page was live. I got in within the first 30 seconds =)

OK, back to non E3 PS4 discussion. Good to know:

I'm wondering what the disk load mechanism will be. I like the trayless slider best, I have the latest cheapo PS3 which has no mechanization, its a roll off top, and hate that. Seems like such a dumb little thing but it's an important detail. I'll never ever ever load a game via disk, I am...