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Thanks for the tips.

Thanks John. You saved me a lot of time, headache and money. 👍 I’ll give your suggestion some more demos and find the best configuration. I might also look into getting aimable ceiling speakers to “narrow the gap” between the front and back ceiling row.

Thanks John. I would love to hear what you learned.

Ok, understood. Apologies to everyone.

Thanks ManW. I agree. I got the Dolby Atmos demo blu rays, which are at least something to use, but I was already physically locked in.

... and that’s not an insult?

Thanks for your input. I appreciate it. In my last post I was trying to acknowledge that I (not anyone else) over-stated what I previously thought was a “fact”. I don’t think I said anything insulting in the last post (if I’m wrong, please let me know, it was not my intent). I was just...

Upon further research this comment is misleading. While this may have been technically true at one point, there now appears to be a growing body of dissatisfied (and angry) users who installed down-firing in-ceiling speakers. The inability to reposition and aim speakers has resulted in an...

I apologize bringing up the xx4 vs xx2 disaster again, which another member started. Upon further research in a more sophisticated forum, I must advise the likely reason I prefer xx2. Despite being told I was wrong and/or I didn’t follow Dolby’s guidelines (which I did), the reason is likely...

This is misleading. Most of what you say is misleading or mere opinion. Please stop misleading readers.

Just FYI - I’m finding lots of stuff online about Atmos being pinned to 7.1.4, like Josh said. Seems this is a hot issue in other forums and people are ticked off.

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Me too! That’s why I’m here. I read it in that one Audioholics article and was very surprised (check out their review of the Monolith HTP-1 and scroll to section on Front Wides). I was hoping you guys had some more info. Even though I’m dying to get x.x.6, I don’t want to buy a new $4000...

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I did try that too, many many times. I didn’t like the result. But thanks for the suggestion. Like I said, I think my front and rear rows are just too far away. And once you get the sensation of a bullet, or plane, or spaceship, or thunderstorm DIRECTLY ABOVE...

For all the remaining readers who are here to learn and not trash other people’s challenging questions and opinions, here’s a recap: FACT: many/most atmos tracks are locked at 7.1.4, so don’t be misled by people on this forum implying you can use additional speakers in atmos mode on locked...

Some guys can’t read angles? Some think height speakers are equivalent to in-ceiling? Opinions presented as fact? No warning that most atmos tracks are locked at 7.1.4? What a forum!

Thanks for comments. Just to clarify: 1) I’m not suggesting it’s worth giving up top speakers I’m favour of wides. Not at all. I’d gladly run 9.1.6 or 7.1.6 if soundtracks would let me, but most don’t. I want MORE top speakers, not less. The problem is I prefer the middle row alone (which...

Guys, I really appreciate all your comments. I don’t mean to wear anyone out. Just to recap, my original point was just to warn people that it is misleading to say you can run 15ch if your AVR can process them (and you can power them of course) without also warning them that if they intend to...

Sorry, I literally said exactly what you said.

Oh I’ve tried :) Over and over and over again. Once you use middle + front, or middle + rear, the middle gets virtually nothing. There is a clear bias towards sending the atmos signal to the front row and rear row. Hence I use only the top middle row to basically disable that bias.

Fair enough. I like wides even if they are essentially fake channels. And like I said, it’s basically a moot point now anyway… no one uses them much, and matrixing requires giving up true atmos, so it’s a lost battle, I get it. And like I said, in my set up, the 4 ceiling speakers are...

I have 3 pairs of ceiling speakers. I’m not sure what you are asking. My understanding from Audioholics is that if the atmos mix is locked to 7.1.4, which most are, the top middle are never used.

Dolby recommends up to 30 degree in front of the main spot and up to 150 behind. Therefore up to 120 degrees between the front row and rear row. The min they recommend is 70 apart, which is still too far apart… 70 should be the max, not min. I set my 90 degrees apart as per the recommendation...

Sorry, Dolby calls them top front and top rear (not top back). My placement is exactly as per Dolby’s recommendations: 45 degree in front of the main position, 135 degrees behind. The angle in between the speakers is therefore 90 degrees, which results in a giant gap above my head and too wide...

(Sorry, posted same thing twice)

Thanks for your reply. So to be clear: 1) you cannot add wides to a locked atmos track unless you turn off Atmos, and instead matrix the channels, which basically defeats the purpose of Atmos. 2) it’s not always clear if an atmos track is locked, but most atmos tracks are locked. That’s...

Thanks for your reply. James Larson of Audioholics disagrees with your assessment of how wides are engaged. I’m not saying you’re wrong, maybe he is. As noted in his Audioholic’s review of the Monolith HTP-1 processor, most Atmos tracks are LOCKED at 7.x.4 and therefore most AVRs/processors...

Hi everyone, Forgive me but I think all of you are missing the real issue. Whether your AVR can accommodate wides is only part of the question. The REAL QUESTION is does the AVR have a mode that actually uses wides??? I’ve been researching this for some time and here is what I found: - DTS...