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  1. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Sorry. Let me try a more basic question. What was specifically done to Hog after UCLA completed their work?
  2. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    I stand corrected. What was the precise restoration path for the film, and what organization or entity performed what functions?
  3. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    I believe Hog Wild Was a digital restoration by UCLA, and came direct from UCLA without further digital “help.”
  4. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    One further point of importance, especially when quoting a distributor’s site or on-line account. This particular release has reached a new zenith in the industry for hyperbole and self-promotion, with virtually zero facts standing behind the claims. One might surmise, that in quoting verbiage...
  5. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Hog Wild was done digitally, as the surviving elements were best served by the format, which, per damage, and missing pieces, apparently did not lend itself as well to analogue work. If things were done in normal UCLA fashion, the final result would probably have been a fully restored 35mm...
  6. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Welcome to HTF. While your post from Mr. Parker is appreciated, I must disagree with him vehemently. Aside from Hog Wild, which was a fully digital Restoration, performed in its entirety by UCLA, the majority of the other films in the release have been Damaged, not improved upon, by digital...
  7. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    I have zero interest in previous video versions. Irrelevant. These have been sold to the consumer as 2 and 4k scans from original nitrate elements, that look as good as they did when they premiered. Either they do, or they do not. Reality of years of poor preservation and element wear and...
  8. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    I believe Noel Coward referenced as "the divine innocence of the uninitiated..."
  9. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Less digital cleansing, or alternatively Proper low-level digital processing combined with more manual cleaning. I’ve offered to clean a sample of Music Box, which should have been magnificent.
  10. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    To be clear, “preserved” would mean for home theater. Any films that went through digital processing, and have not been recorded back to estar-based film, are not preserved in that form.
  11. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Doesn't really explain anything. But adds more questions. Why would Serge Bromberg be scanning?
  12. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Where did this post originate? They've not answered a single question.
  13. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Let me try to explain what I’m reading. Finstead, and most important, without silver grain, there is no image. Period. But important in another way, is that generational loss does affect performance, and here’s a perfect example. In the original dupes of the restaurant assassination sequence...
  14. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Probably speed. Keep in mind that in 1927, the projection speed was a bit slower. This example, ran at 20 - 21 fps. The faster the speed, the more transparent the grain structure. Which means that running at 24 would make up a bit of the difference.
  15. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Open the last comparison shot large, and even heavily compressed (there's a lot of data here), you'll see proper grain structure and a cohesive image. Each a 2k file derived from a duplicate negative derived from an original acetate print.
  16. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Here is a working test comparing digital processes and settings - Compressed images: copyright 2020 The Film Preserve, Ltd.
  17. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Unprocessed 2k Scan from Duplicate Negative derived from 35mm Print
  18. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    It looks very much like the caps. Image is clean and two steps above being waxy.
  19. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    I’ll try to post some representative samples, albeit compressed of a 1927 film, in 4k scan from OCN, scan of original print frames, 2k scan of 35mm dupe neg from print - all with zero processing or cleanup, which means that (within reasonable proximity per a .jpeg) they should show high...
  20. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Sorry, but film is not a standardized medium. Each run of prints is slightly different. Color is all over the place. In many situations prints are combined by how close or far off they are from the norm.
  21. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Because it’s a C9 or an OLED? All of the glass comes from LG.
  22. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    One of my overriding problems with the home theater industry has been their out-of-sync, dismissive attitude toward the consumer base. There is no logical reason why gear should not simply work - especially without a $5,000 add-on, that will be more junk two years hence.
  23. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Alright, the sun has risen. Let’s go back to Wonderful Life. If you’ve not noted, those words were appended, after quite a bit of research - none from Sony, thank you - whilst attempting to view El Aurens on a Sony OLED panel, and having a similar result to Wonderful. This is after Paramount’s...
  24. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    I may have misspoken. The publicity notes use the term “pristine.” Is it not also on the packaging?
  25. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    Sorry, but we're running off the rails here. First, I've never been a Rob. Been called a lot of things, but not that. There are ZERO problems with anything done by UCLA. Their work is superlative. The problems that I'm seeing are with digital clean-up, which is long after UCLA was involved.
  26. Robert Harris

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Laurel & Hardy: The Definitive Restorations - in Blu-ray

    I’ve just posted the following over at BD.com in response to comments by Bigshot. No reason not to repeat them here: FOR THE RECORD: I have seen some of the earlier releases on DVD and laser, but have no need to do comparisons. I’m very aware of the history of the elements, and their myriad...
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