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  1. Museum Pieces

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    I'm glad to see it go so the budgets can be used for better Trek. DSC had credibility problems in every facet of the Prime timeline, stories, and ship design for me from the first scene of the first episode, and never escaped them, IMO. I thought the scores were great. I won't say good riddance...
  2. Museum Pieces

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    This thread proves otherwise. You don't have to go back far to see a moderator threaten to expel people for precisely what I am speaking about. I know, because it was me who was again attacked for not liking DSC. So go ahead and convince yourselves you're in the right. The very threads on this...
  3. Museum Pieces

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    I'm not the one who needs to alter my repeated history of behavior. Not just on these threads but other threads. Go look at the Star Wars thread. A group of bullies ran people out of there on a rail if they didn't like The Last Jedi. Same on the MCU threads. And I'm not going to put up with it...
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    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    And I just thanked Jason for no bullying. There was a reason for that and you all have just witnessed it. I'll decide what's for me and what isn't, and allow you to do the same without my help. I will not be belittled by you or directed by you or anyone else. I have broken no rules and you are...
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    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    It's the way Burnham is so self-righteous about her beliefs when 1) she hasn't earned the rank; and 2) she is rarely accountable. Take Burnham off that show and a lot of my gripes go away. And I didn't change the argument. I supported my argument, which you agreed was fair, so I'm not sure what...
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    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Yes, but they were already in positions of command. They'd earned the right to do it through respect and good judgment. They were not repeatedly acting against the command structure of the ship they served on. And it didn't happen practically every other episode like it happens with Burnham, who...
  7. Museum Pieces

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Not mutiny. Period. And other ST characters never disobeyed orders and got promoted to captain. One of them got DEMOTED to captain. It's patently absurd. As to the rest, it's the WAY Burnham is written, so self-righteous. As far as not having stability from the top, I agree. But that isn't...
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    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    I agree. The bridge crew often talk like they are in high school in the 21st century too. It's completely unbelievable. And Discovery has never even approached looking like a real ship to me, forget being a functional one. Not since I first saw it at ComiCon. So many bad decisions were made when...
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    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    I have a love/hate relationship with this show that revolves primarily around how Burnham is written. Even though they are 900 years into the future from when she committed mutiny--even if I forgot that (which I can't)--she still disobeyed the direct orders of her commanding officer in this new...
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    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    They forgave her for the worst sin of all--mutiny--and re-instated her, so I don't know why they wouldn't forgive her for directly and willfully disobeying the command of a superior officer. Oh wait...yes I do...we have REAL writers now. ;-) One can only hope.
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    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Unification III didn't disappoint. Just seeing Nimoy again, hearing his voice, and it wasn't forced in the episode, was a treat. I thought this episode did real justice to the work that meant so much to Spock. I enjoyed watching Michael finally (convincingly) get put in her place. Too bad the...
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    I thought this had everything I could want from a new ST series. It felt new, yet it felt respectful and I believed it was connected to the old. I loved the futuristic Starfleet HQ. I believed it and it felt connected to the past I love. Just can't say enough about how much I liked this episode...
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    When the computer on DSC glitched out and was clearly different, and the commander of the ship didn't stop and check what was up, or tell anyone, I kinda had a big problem with that. Command job one: safety of all hands. It put a pall over the dinner scene for me, which would have been ten times...
  14. Museum Pieces

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    When I feel that way I just forget everything and simply sit down and watch the show. It either entertains or it doesn't. And so far this season I am entertained with no loss of hair from pulling it out.
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    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    With season 3 episode 3 DSC finally won me over. I was leaning that way after the first two episodes of the new season, and when I didn't cringe at a single thing for the second straight week, I realized I was enjoying myself, footloose and fancy free. And that is a first for me with DSC. If...
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    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    I'm with you, but IMO it's clear they don't value that kind of approach. They value stretching a big canvas with a cataclysmic event, and writing episodes inside it, not starting with character-based writing from which the big canvas evolves. I don't think they believe that approach would enable...
  17. Museum Pieces

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    No matter how upset you are at yourself for using the wrong word won't make your claim objectively true. I'm not the one that called somebody out. You did. I'm defending myself with words and what they actually mean. I hope I never feel so threatened by someone's argument that I have to...
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    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    Fair enough. But when I call someone out, using the right word is always worth it to me. Words matter on a message board. They're basically all we've got.
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    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    It's not objectively true. it's factually true. There's a big difference. For something to be objectively true, it has to be true from all points of view. Not just the show runner's. Everybody's. That's what the word "objective" means. If it didn't, there would be no difference between fact and...
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    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    I agree it's officially wrong. It's even "consistently" wrong. But "objectively"? You might want to check the definition: "in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions. In a way that is not dependent on the mind for existence; actually." This is a work of fiction. So that...
  21. Museum Pieces

    Paramount+ Star Trek: Discovery - Official Thread

    From the start I have chosen to believe this series takes place in the Kelvin timeline. First the implausible ten years before Kirk, then Spock with a convenient sister, now the Federation burned to a cinder. I know the creators said it's Prime. It's just never felt that way to me. It's all a...
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