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Maybe it was a genius genie that fulfilled that wish (of bigger screen), haha! :laugh: _Man_

I wouldn't put it past Verizon to try to charge another fee for the privilege anyway... _Man_

Better doublecheck Verizon doesn't charge you another fee for that then. Think I'll try just moving the physical SIM card over first (to avoid involving Verizon support... and potential fee) and then see if I can transfer to eSIM later... _Man_

So wait, @DaveF, did the process also automatically transfer your phone line from the old SIM card on your old phone to the eSIM on the new one? OR did you physically move the SIM card to the new phone and didn't bother w/ eSIM? I'm thinking I should probably just move the SIM card and then...

Yeah, I'm resisting setting it up for the moment, LOL... though I did unbox it, haha... _Man_

Now that I have it, I'm kinda debating whether I should just wait for my Spigen clear case to arrive before I switch to using it (from the beat-up old 7 I got back from my 14-yo) -- don't really wanna go out w/ it w/out a case. ETA on the case is Tues (because I ended up having to cancel and...

Mine just arrived. Packaging is slimmer than I expected... IIRC, that even transfers all your music (synched from iTunes), which iCloud doesn't back up. Unfortunately, I've already done a phone wipe the week before in order to pass it to my 14-yo... I kinda needed to resynch my music...

Just noticed my shipment is coming from China (and cleared customs just fine... :P back on Tues). Hadn't realize it'd come directly from (a factory/warehouse in) China, but I guess that's common enough for new product launches nowadays... _Man_

Speaking of nickel-and-diming, those Vz bastards are apparently charging me ~$9.70 in surcharges+taxes+fees for the $35 activation! And of course, they also wanna charge me $15 (plus whatever surcharges+taxes+fees!) for changing the line number for the new line to something I'd actually want...

Depends on how one looks at it. They could also simply not still make you pay for something they're actually (presumably) getting back from you a month earlier. It's not as if you get to hold onto the old phone that extra month to use afterall... unless I'm mistaken about that... The main...

Still seems a bit nickel-and-diming though... considering the program already seems much more costly (including the AppleCare+ requirement) than just doing normal trade-ins (and buying phones via some other means). IF the Apple Card payment plan (which nets you 3% cashback) or similar wouldn't...

I'll say this. IF only Verizon (or probably any telecom carriers) operated in manner 10% as customer-friendly as Apple... Adding a new line (w/out buying a phone from them) to our family plan for our youngest has been a real pain. It's almost like Verizon doesn't want me to pay them another...

When you pay off the phone, you can then trade it in w/ Apple probably essentially just like you would via the upgrade program. When I do trade-in, Apple either just takes the phone in-store or sends me a trade-in kit... and the trade-in value is even deducted from the new phone cost at the...

Hmmm... Apple's offering $790 for trade-in of the 12 Pro Max -- that's easily more than 1/2 even if it was the 512GB version (and they don't actually care which version)... and you would have paid for nearly 1/2 of your trade-in by that point (although the 12 Pro Max came out a bit later than...

Hmmm... that upgrade payment seems a bit confusing and not perfectly clear what it is -- at least they might not(?) be charging you sales tax on the AppleCare+ like they would outside that upgrade program... Anyway, the AppleCare+ you're probably paying for costs $200 near as I can tell. IMO...

I don't do the early upgrade thing though... so maybe the upgrade fee is unavoidable in that case. Maybe I'm missing something, but I could always just pay the phone off early and then do a trade-in (or just pass it to one of my kids), if I change my mind and want to upgrade earlier than every...

There should be no such upgrade fee if you buy the phone from Apple w/out designating who the carrier is -- that's an option I've used before... though it's possible Verizon still tries to charge you a similar fee at activation. I just ordered a 13 Pro 256GB w/ no such fee (and used a new Apple...

But then again... https://www.macrumors.com/2021/09/15/a15-geekbench-cpu-gpu/ _Man_

Yeah, not keen on Verizon offers requiring switch to unlimited data plan... especially since that probably means the entire family (of 6 smartphone lines + 1 basic) has to switch, not just the one or two lines getting the new phone(s)... _Man_

I might only go for the 13 Pro too, if the only diff of the 13 Pro Max is bigger phone/screen a bit more battery life than the 13 Pro. _Man_

Just wondering if there's any tips, tricks, etc to getting the new phone asap if it's not an upgrade... since it sounds like this matters for upgrades... given that they might run into fulfillment issues... _Man_

What if I'm not upgrading -- just getting a new phone? _Man_

Boooo... _Man_

Not really an "upgrade", but I suspect he's also gonna miss the home button (and maybe TouchId). The involved UI change may take a bit getting used to... but the phone will be physically smaller while offering a bigger screen -- the (essentially) missing thick bezel might also take getting used...

I'd actually wait too -- I'm actually fine w/ my iPhone 11, except it could maybe use a battery refresh now (at 83% health) -- but my 14-yo needs a new phone anyway, so I'm probably passing mine to her (like before... as she has my dying old 7)... _Man_

The one thing that might realistically mean much of anything might be the potential for bigger, longer lasting battery that might come w/ that thicker phone design... though being able to get a $60 battery refresh/replacement from Apple has alleviated that issue a good deal me thinks... _Man_

That's it. I'm waiting til next year, LOL... _Man_

Well, noon on the East Coast is still 9am PT where they're HQed afterall... :D _Man_