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Yes, the SR7012 did in fact end up at $1K for a while. I clearly recall that. Also the Denon X3500H hit, as I recall, $600 for a while. I haven't seen anything close to those prices in the last year though.

@Jeff1125 , first, sorry for sidetracking your thread. Looking back at your initial post, while looking for someone else, I found this great deal on the Marantz SR7013 that is in your budget. As long as you don't want 8K compatibility, you'd be making a mistake not to at least give it serious...

I SO agree. Look into ELAC, both the Debut 2 and UniFi 2 lines, as well as Paradigm. Focal also has offerings as do B&W and KEF. FWIW, those two ELAC lines are specifically designed to outperform their prices, and they do.

I just want to mention that with things I control, I try to provide the best customer service possible. I think Dave Upton knows this personally...I hope. We all know that reality plays in the factor with our own finances. I'd love to get the type of service companies like Thiel provided me...

The 4/8x125/250 models could at least be a decent way to fill out a full surround system, maybe with something more proven for the front.

Dave, that is all true. I have no argument with any of it. My argument is with the statement there is only a "slight" difference in price. You posted two "similarly" priced and spec'd amps from the two brands as examples. The problem is, the price of those "similarly priced" amps are $1,200...

Hey, I'd love to try out a D-Sonic M3a-3000S with my speakers. I'm sure it would be great. Last year, when the time came to get a new amp, I sweated over it for months. I was really going to go with a Parasound Halo, for the conventional design, but I'm glad I didn't. At one point I had it in...

I’m curious to hear your observations. I just know it is surprisingly good with my CS 3.6s.

The front three are the most demanding and dynamic. Going with a three channel amp is definitely a good way to go.

Like I said, I don't want to get into a partisan argument. One amp costs 90% more than the other one. It's not a fair comparison. A much more fair comparison would be the Emotiva XPA-DR3, which is still $275 less expensive.

Well, not to be partisan, the power difference is 400WPC vs. 300WPC, and the "slight" price difference is nearly double. ;) The D-Sonic is Class D, which has the highest efficiency and smallest enclosure, where the Emotiva is Class H, which is still quite efficient, but not to the level of D...

If you have some time, you might listen to the latest PodCast. I happen to have Emotiva amps, but I'm not beholden to them either. It's just that circumstances were such that about ten years ago when I was getting back into upgrading my equipment, they were the only one I could afford at the...

Dave can answer more definitively, but I believe D-Sonic uses ICE modules. That's B&O, isn't it?

Well, I am surprised by how impressed I am with the Class H amps I got recently. I think both designs are the future of amplifiers. Class D is more expensive to implement to the maximum of it's potential, but theoretically it's capable of higher performance and tends to have higher potential...

I think the problem is Outlaw farms out manufacturing. You have better options these days. Personally I like the newer designs (Class D and H) which are significantly lighter. The idea of an 80lb amp might feed the ego, but they're a PITA to move around. Not to mention the problem of...

I just thought this graph was worth repeating. Look at that drop in power when you use all the channels.

Jeff, there is no reason, none at all, to match your electronics brand with your speaker brand. In fact, electronics brand speakers are usually low quality, or at least a lot lower than you can get from speaker manufacturers. There are exceptions, but to the best of my knowledge Yamaha isn't...

Sensitivity is typically measured at 1 meter, for comparison. Nobody actually listens to speakers that close, so what happens in a room is more complicated.

..and they won't, because the impedance swings of most speakers tends to be rather extreme. Better brands and designers will take this into consideration and produce better sounding speakers. The late speaker designer Jim Thiel always contended that a reasonably flat impedance curve was...