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Let's kiss and make up. (Only kidding about the first part).

But -- dear God -- the IP didn't appear magically! The three original negatives were used to create the IP, and that's what was used for all the videos leading up to the 4K release; for the 4K they directly scanned those three Technicolor elements, and that produces a stronger image. Why in...

At this point, I'm sorry I ever correctly answered that original question about what the PHANTOM Blu-ray was sourced from. And you're right, there is no controversy here. It's simply a matter of understanding the difference between an IP taken from the three original Technicolor elements (the...

It's true about WPIX-TV in NY. They ran 35mm prints of TV shows like THE HONEYMOONERS, STAR TREK, BATMAN, THE ODD COUPLE, even TWILIGHT ZONE, when most of the nation was watching 16mm versions of same. The majority of the movies they showed in the '70s and early '80s were 16mm, however, since...

...but a number of you had trouble accepting the fact that an IP derived from the same Technicolor source material was used for all previous videos releases of PHANTOM '43. Of course the new version was scanned... no one ever questioned that. But that same Technicolor source material was used...

Thank you. This confirms exactly what I said several posts back. The Blu-ray and all previous incarnations of PHANTOM '43 were derived from an IP made from the original negs; the new version was scanned from those same negs directly. That's the difference between an IP and a direct negative...

New York WOR Channel 9's print was a 16mm Eastman, during an age when all syndicated movies on TV were 16mm (9's mid-'70s telecast was, however, the very first time PHANTOM had been shown in color on NY TV, since previous local station owner WCBS Channel 2 had only run the movie in 16mm b/w)...

But I believe it's been the same source material all along, just transferred differently into different video formats over the decades. After all, you can't get any better than the three original negatives as a starting point. I remember how impressed we were when the laserdisc first came out...

Honestly, I was just answering aPhil's question from #14 -- "Can anyone confirm what source/film element(s) was/were used for the older Blu-ray?". Explaining that the same source material was used, but transferred differently (scans) and with a 4K upgrade, seemed like the best way to answer...

Properly-handled negative scans generally blow away IP transfers, no question. Add to that the 4K upgrade factor. But the actual Technicolor tonal values here are identical, because they come from exactly the same source. They've simply had, not one, but two substantial technical upgrades.

As I understand it, the same three original Technicolor negative elements for PHANTOM OF THE OPERA '43 were used for the version we've been watching for decades, on VHS, laserdisc, DVD, and finally Blu-ray. An IP (inter-positive) was made from these negs, and a transfer of this IP was used for...