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hey. i bought the hts-650 for $294 direct from onkyo refurbished and the onkyo dv-sp500 dvd player from crutchfield last week for $180 and it should all be here Wednesday :)

lol good luck. i have been looking for the same thing and am actually thinking about getting a refurbished/factory reconditioned component system since HTiB's are sooooo crappy. I am either going to go w/ Onkyo or wait for the new Pioneer's coming out. Unfortunately, all the new systems are...