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Update: I was talking to another AV group and they told me about the new Denon 6700H that was just released, anyways, I decided that was the route I wanted to take so I pulled the trigger! It's going to be here next week. As far as the two patio speakers out back, I'll probably go with a cheap...

And I just realized, I said 9.1.4 again but its really 7.1.4 since I wont be utilizing the Upfiring speakers from the R-625FA since I have the overhead speakers already. Maybe I can do 6500H and then just get a cheap 2 channel then..

Hey John, with your input and research, I think I want to go with the Denon 6500H, 11.2 channel receiver and add an Outlaw 7000-7 channel amp so I could power my 9.1.4 setup and the two patio speakers out back and have a few extra channels for the future. Would this work?

Yeah I thought if I at least go with the 13 channel Denon 8500, then I would only need something cheap for the two patio speakers. They won't have the same usage as the movie room so I didnt think I needed to spend so much on a receiver for them

Wow...yeah I should make sure my console table can handle all this weight lol

The Denon 8500 is about $3700. Thanks for your suggestions John. I'll consider doing the whole preamp and external amps. I just thought it would look cleaner with just one receiver. I just dont want the wife to look at the setup and freak out cause it looks like there are three receivers and...

Thank you for your responses. That sounds good to me, I'll just use the front speakers since I already have four in ceiling speakers. and yes, you sir, are indeed correct with the patio speakers. They are just above the outside dining table so I'll only use those for when the family is outside...

Great...so now I need a 15 channel setup. How would you hook all this up if it were you?

Hello everyone. I am in need of help!! My speakers are Front LR: 2 - R-625FA Center: R-52C Side LR: 2 - R-51M Rear: LR: 2 - R-51M Overhead: 6 Total = Micca M-8C (4 in movie room, and two in patio) Receiver: I am leaning towards Denon 8500H but feel free to change my mind after you read this...