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I never asked you to take my word for anything. After all I am a nobody, so why even question my statement? That is all. It is all the pages after pages of **SVS is better** simply because their sub is tuned lower? I am just excited that Dr Hsu is **responding** :D Some of us do get info...

The evidence IS coming - however do you take issues with other brands too? It seems like that no matter what people claim about SVS it is seems to be ok. I have the right to get excited about things don't I? FYI, some of us get to read info that 99% of you don't get to see :D

It would be very hard to find a nicer & more humble guy than Dr Hsu. Why would you assume that Hsu Research would blow you off? They are a bunch of really great people - pleasere to do business with. If you read the HSU BB, they have clearly stated many times that at this time they are not...

around summer. or you can get the VTF2 now and get the upgrade at the same time (summer)

yup! Save your $$$ for the new VTF2HO that will rival the TN sub.:D Clean down to 16hz out of a 10" woofer. You can then laugh at the guys that are into subs with 20Hz :D

================================================== ========== :D - funny! Fortunately speaker upgrade is not in my budget right now. However I do hope that you are very satisfied with your new setup.

I never said that there is no info below 25Hz. What I was trying to tell you is that the STF2 with it's 25Hz would be plenty deep. Especially if the sub is placed properly.

No. I will tell you however that proper placement of a sub is very important. I have a STF2 (and a STF3 that is tuned to 18 hz.) In my living room which is a lot bigger then your room the STF2 gives you more bass than you would ever want. It is a world class subwoofer. Don't let people fool...

Thanks for the explanation.

What do you mean?

Good luck Drew with those speakers you are getting. Maybe I get to hear them one day :D

got it and sent a reply to it!

wireing is easy and I live in Fairfax :D

I meant performance wise you want to compare the VT12s to twice the price. If the sub is close to the mains 100hz should be just fine. Set speakers to small, and the Xover to 80hz (or 100hz if that is the lowest setting) and leave it at that. Having the VT12 go down to 80hz is one of...

the STF2/VT12 is $559.00 shipped. You also get a 20' subwoofer cable free. You really have to hear them - and since they are factory direct, you want to compare them against system costing twice this HT package. An equally priced mini system from a retail store can't match it's performance...

What ever you end up with - enjoy! I am sure the other speakers are great deals as well. I have 2 sets of VT12s. They replaced my NHT speakers that were highly recommended by Stereophiles.:D I will admit that I am a huge Dr Hsu fan so I tend to trust his ears blind. The reason? People with...

I am sure as soon as Dr Hsu sees your post on his board he will tell you exactly what to do.:emoji_thumbsup:

Max extansion mode!

There should be several Hsu owners in your area. If you visit the Hsu message board and post a request, I am sure that you will get a few responses to audition either sub. Again, don't forget that Hsu is coming out with some patented technology in a few months, that will further the VTF3s...

I have a STF3 in Max Extension mode. I'd say to get the VTF3 and when the **upgrades** are available in a few months, it will be one very nice sub :) On the other hand the STF3 will also have an upgrade that will be hard to beat, so you can't really loose. With the VTF3 you also get...

When the STF line was coming out around Xmas time in 2003 I also preordered but I had them put me down for a B stock thinking that they must have a few coming in. Well, they sent out a *perfect* one because that was all that was available but still honorned the discount price. :) Hsu Research...

It is a daily occurance (give or take a few) so no, I didn't have to say that. As far as how happy *we* are with our subs? I live in a condo, so I can't listen at that level - ever. At my girlfriend's house I could, but she doesn't care for such high SPLs. When alone in her house, I have...

Not to hijack the thread, but you are digging your own grave deeper by each post. :D The majority of the posters here are SVS owners so far that I have read. Even the owners of SVS are here within minutes of many threads. Nothing is wrong with that but obviously your above statement is a...

Man - I know I am new here but I must be reading a different message board. SVS owners get all over anyone not talking positive about their brand. You don't see that?

I didn't sense that you were kidding from your post. You also miss read my post. Where do I sound uptight? FYI, I made my wonderful girlfriend feel **good** 9 times today :D :D :D so believe me when I say that how YOU feel about a sub you never heard doesn't really bother me. You may...

Craig - this is hometheaterforum.com - not SVS.com. Or is it? That Alan guy is typical of what Hsu fans don't like. To claim the HSU sub in question is Inferior? How is he helping the original poster? From my point of view, those SVS posts awhile back at Hsu were *fishy* at best...

Fair enough :)

Hsu Research VT12 $299.00 Small, but sounds huge!

Let me correct you Craig - Fidel Castro

No problemo!