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yeah, i saw that. Endgadget was reporting that hardware prices have started to rise. The target sale might be good if the titles are decent

I agree with most of that, except that just because I think some movies do not warrant an HD upgrade, does not mean I am not an enthusiast. If I had an unlimited amount of money, all movies would be purchased on bd, but i am picking and choosing to get the most for my money. At this stage, I...

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As I have already stated in the other thread, I totally believe your descriptiong, but I do not think all of the world shares your opinion. I do believe that the best upconversion will look less than the bd, but what I am really saying is cost/value realted. I mean how much is 6 times the...

Well, I think there are some roadblocks to blu ray mass adoption and here they are 1. Price: Now that the war is over, hardware prices have actually risen and now the sweet software deals are all but gone and fox is out of control on pricing iwth little or no features 2. HDTV not yet in a...

Well the problem is my collection is not huge like a lot of you guys and I have only bought what I really like, thus selling what I have is not an option. No, I am not committed to sd, just saying that I could care less on SOME titles. I will not replace my whole collection.

This is the HD section of HTF and I own both blu and HD DVD, but most of my collection is and will be SD. I think it is wrong to say that you can not be an HT enthusiast and buy and sd over an HDM on a title by title basis. I mean one of the reasons I joined this forum was because it was not...

Yes, tell that to david

I believe your description of the quality. Funny thing is, I could go back five years, heck even two years and find dvd reviews, discussions talking about how breathtaking things looked. Again, I am not doubting that the blu ray looked a lot better, but I do not think that films now can only be...

i agree with that. I am just saying to me, this particular film, although with more detail on bd, is not woth the extra ten dollars, that I would spend on say star wars

I understand it fine, I just can afford to pony up to every release in bd.

What if your monthly dvd budget was like forty dollars, like mine. Would you still buy every title on bd? Also, are you honestly trying to tell me that i can't appreciate the genius of the film if i watch it on sd? What will I lose if I cant see as many wrinkles on tomm lee jones? If i had...

I AGREE. I am also not going to replace anything but my absolute favorites and even some new releases will be purchased in sd I am thinking of getting no cuntry on sd because it is not an effects driven film and does warrant twice the cost..

no, there are still two formats, dvd and blu ray. This will be a much tougher fight

nope, haven't changed my mind yet. I still have tons of dvd and enjoy the upconversion. I am more likely, but have no definite plans. And Glenn, you are messed up. Even though the format war is over or close to it, the mere fact that there was one and now a million people are just finding...

I read that the boys have to deal with Jason from friday the 13th during episode ten of this season.

Amazon does not reperesent HD's acutal market share. Amazon is where MOST early adopters are buying them from, but let's not forget that wal mart is still number one for buying dvd for the masses

Well i have stated my stance a lot, but again, for me it is simple, I refuse to have to buy two machines for a new format. I refuse to have to pick and choose which studios i value more. I know some may fire back, well go format neutral, buy both, but i am not made of money. That fact makes me...

AWESOME hunting for those rare gems

So John, you now have blu ray? If so, it is interesting that unlike many here, you have not turned a blind eye to things SD. I remember from about a month of so ago, you thinking about getting and HDTV. On to the format war and my status as of today. I am still blissfully sitting out. I dont...

This is completely different then VHS to dvd. I posted this a while back, but lets revisit it a bit. There was no huge format war when going to dvd. Divx, doesnt even count it died out so fast. Thus customers were not confused, torn between two choices. Also going from tape to disc, was...

Correct, this thread was started by me to discuss why I am happy to be sitting out the format war and for others to share their opinion on that topic, not which side may win. I think we can all agree that at some point, one must fall. Back to topic, I would not buy either if the price were...

That is why I laugh at both sides right now because neither has a chance with the format war

First off, star wars would not end the format war. You overestimate its influence onthe average consumer. You guys also assume that thet the future is pay per view. I view it as mass storage devices that you buy downoads that you keep forever or for however long you want. You could transfer...

ah you assume the we have to be talking pc's. I picture it more like tivo's with massive hard drives, like a vod, on demand, type of thing

Another problem with adoption is this. There was no question in upgrading catalogue vhs or laserdisc titles. The buying of titles on dvd from vhs, often meant getting a film on widescreen for the first time, or with bonus materials, and on a fairly indestructible disk format. Now with HD, you...

Dan got it a little wrong, sure prices keep people from jumping in, but this format war is what will really keep people away. Even if both sides had palyers at 200, it would not help. Sure each side would sell more players, but not hit mass adoption. Bottom line, most consumers will not buy into...

that low of a dual format player will not be here that soon, years. Like bill hunt or not, someting he said is true, these two formats have a small window to get to the masses then it is over for both. People will stick with dvd until the next thing, downloads. Microsoft has said that they feel...

Here is a quote from the article. It is basic double talk about the whole thing. Paramount and DreamWorks Animation declined to comment. Microsoft, the most prominent technology company supporting HD DVDs, said it could not rule out payment but said it wrote no checks. “We provided no...

Bottom line is, I am willing to buy new equipment, new movies, but i am not willing to buy two machines, and have to pick between two formats. Yeah, it is a bit on principle and price. Both deserve to fail because they have let greed screw the consumer.