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Look into the Denon 5805. It can handle anything you are looking to do and the sound quality is right up there with anything you can throw at it including the Anthem D1. I just installed one in my dedicated home theater which replaced the Aragon Stage One and there was no comparison. I run my...

All you have to do is look up the DAC's and the DSP engines of both and you will realize the B&K is a superior product over the Outlaw. Go with the B&K.

For one thing, nice speakers you have picked out. B&W speakers and especially the Nautilus line love high current high powered amps. The more power you throw at them the better. The low end really sticks out in my mind when I audition them with high powered amps.

Look at the Definitive Tech BP7002's, CLR 2500 and the BPVX for surrounds. Retail is around $4200 but street pricing would be close to $3000. A little extra time in setting them up but they are super for home theater and I think you will enjoy the sound field they have. JMHO

B&K Reference 50 S2 can be had pretty close to that price point. Retail is around $2400 but street is much less.

Are they still going to manufacture the 5803 or is being discontinued? Two of those for my whole house audio and 5.1 systems for the great room and master bedroom would be nice. Does anyone know if you can run keypads to the 5803 or are you only allowed to run volume control and IR?

quote: "There are several reasons for that,and the most prominent is bias.People who write for "high end" magazines are not very open minded when it comes to receivers especially if it's from a Japanese company.Sadly these are the same people who ask us to believe that many components have...

John-Tompkins, thanks for your response. That is what I was looking for but it seems this thread was hijacked and everyone wanted to get their opinion in concerning amps and this was not a thread regarding amps but whether a high end Denon Receiver would work well as a pre/pro. I have been...

Let's say you put a nice 7 channel amp into the equation with the Denon. How would the Denon 5805 compare with mid to high end seperates like the B&K Ref. 50S2, Anthem AVM 30, Anthem Statement D1, Parasound C1 and C2, Classe SSP300, Krell, etc? I just think The Denon with its Auto EQ/Auto Cal...

I am really curious why a Denon 5805 vs. seperates would not sound just as good or better. They have the most up to date top of the line DAC's and DSP engines that the high end seperates do not have plus the auto eq/auto cal. What gives? Is it just audiophile people have an elitist attitude...

Over at another forum there is a thread concerning the 4805 and it was confirmed by the rep with Audessy (not sure about the spelling) that the 4805 will have the same Auto EQ/Auto Cal as the 5805. Also mentioned that the 4805 will be shipping in early 1st quarter 2005. I beleive that thee 4805...

am curious here on everyones response. I sold my speakers to a buddy of mine who happened to buy my 4802 about a year ago. At the same time he was interested in purchasing my Aragon Stage One pre/pro and B&K 200.5 amp so I transported them to his house and we hooked them up and to both of our...

Paul D.K., I am sure they are still making the M250. It was just rated AAAA in the recent Stereophile Guide to Home Theater recommended components for 2004. Check them out. By the way the price is $1200 not $1250 so they are about $300 less than the B&K but I am sure a B&K dealer will...

Paul D.K. I think they are still producing the M250. I will check with a dealer friend of mine and see.

At that price you have to consider the Lexicon MC8.

I think I answered this over at AVS but check out the Musical Fidelity Mono's. They retail for $1250 bucks so they are a little less than the B&K.

I own the Aragon Stage One and I am very impressed with the build quality, looks and especially the sound quality in both 2 channel and 5.1/7.1. I just wish I would have known about some of the lesser expensive DB25 cables for SACD and DVD Audio. I purchased the cable from Monster and it cost me...

nikhil m, I just upgraded in December from a Denon 4802 to the Aragon Stage One pre/pro and I can tell you there was a world of difference between the two. The Aragon opened my speakers up and the sound stage became so much bigger with better panning from side to side and front to back...

B&K Ref. 50 and 200.7 amp. I am partial to B&K amps. They have a ton of head room and sound almost tube like. Very warm sounding and contrary to public opinion if they are well ventilated they do not run hot. I keep my 200.5 on all the time and it does not heat up to high levels. I also almost...

JohnnyN, I am not an expert but believe I can help. I use to use the Denon 4802 and then last March I upgraded the amps with a B&K Ref. 200.5 and started using the Denon as a pre/pro. This improved my system with more head room, better sound staging and a whole lot clearer/crisper voicing...

Easy everyone, Jesse is young. Remember those days when we all wanted that big discount. I do. Jesse, with the discounts you are talking about I would listen to the Definitive Technology subs. The Super Cube I and II as well as the $1699 Super Cube Reference. These subs have received super...

I do not take much stock in what Audioholics has to say about any products. That do not seem very consistent. Anyone else feel like commenting on the Aragon products expecially the 2005 or 2007 amps. I love my Stage One and could not be happier with my purchase or the customer service Aragon has...

Brian H, I have ordered a new 2007 amp to go with my new Stage One pre/pro which I am currently using with a 5 channel B&K 200.5 amp. I want to upgrade to 7.1 and I received a price for the 2007 that I can not refuse. How do you classify the Aragon Amps. Tend toward the warmer side or vice...

If you hook your DVD player up to an analog connection you will not be able to utilize DD or DTS. The dropouts are normal for the B&K piece. I am not sure but I don't feel they have fixed the problem(s). I think the new software 1.04 has helped in this regard. Hope this helps.

First off the 802's love power but the B&K mono's will be more than sufficient in driving those speakers especially if you are using a sub. If it was me I would sell the 803's and 804's and purchase the 802's for the fronts, HTM1 center and buy a pair of 805's for the rears with the 850 as a...

Denon 2200, 2900. Both good units.

With t.v. I prefer DTS Neo 6 but there is not a whole lot of difference in sound between the two. The experts disagree with this feeling. I try not to listen to too much DPL II or DTS Neo 6 material and I prefer my music in direct 2 channel.

Paul, the Ref. 200.5 can be had for less. I bought mine from a dealer and received18% right off the bat. I love the warm sound of the B&K and it would match up real well with your B&W speakers.

Sinbad, I own the Denon 4802 and would put it up with any receiver on the market for build quality, sound and power. But like me everyone has a bias on what they like. Give on the units a listen and pick the one that sounds best to you. Beside that you would be happy with all the above units...

Sinbad, I own the Denon 4802 and would put it up with any receiver on the market for build quality, sound and power. But like me everyone has a bias on what they like. Give all the units a listen and pick the one that sounds best to you. Beside that you would be happy with all the above units...