Hit the nail on the head. I've often heard film referred to as "naturally HDR", and as far as prints go, it's just manifestly untrue. HDR refers to the ability to display highlights above the standard range. (WCG is a sperate issue) In the home, that's 100nits. For 35mm projection, around 50. If...
I've finally gotten a chance to actually take a look at the 4K in motion, and I have to be honest, I don't hate it. The things that bothered me before still bother me, but without a side by side comparison, the downfalls aren't as objectionable. Especially through most of the runtime. And I...
I certainly agree with you on Apocalypse Now, but not Dracula. It's a beautiful transfer. What makes you say that?
I'd also argue there's no need to have another format. We don't need 8K in the home, HDR standards were made with future proofing in mind, so they're unlikely to ever change, and...
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Sensible Chroma noise reduction
Sensible Chroma noise reduction + desaturated shadows
French Connection-ified (using neatvideo chroma noise reduction, not multiple layers of blurred color and whatnot)
I think I was wrong. I *was* able to get that kind of an effect out of it, but...
While its certainly possible neat had nothing to do with it, I very much still think it did.
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/22556
Here's a low quality screencap of the 2008 BD from the Blu-Ray forums with "color noise reduction" rammed to 100% in Adobe Camera Raw. Those seen...
Holy ****ing **** the side by side looks so horrendous I'm surprised they're showing it. And not just for the wedding shot, either. Every shot may not be turning into a black and white disaster, but you can clearly see the CNR pulling a good 15–25% of the saturation out of everything.
It's the luma grain. If you only remove the chroma grain, the luma grain stays behind.
And do you have a specific one in mind? I haven't seen any myself, and I haven't seen this effect in any of them from the brief searching I've done.
Is that true? I thought it was simply a byproduct of the chroma noise reduction. I would certainly hope they wouldn't try to pull the wool over our eyes quite *that* hard.
To my eyes, and according to James Mockoski, Part III had 0 grain management. If not for Paramount's input, I doubt any DNR would've been applied to I or II either.
It's honestly sort of surreal to me reading your comments on "black noise patterns". I've been a broadcast student and hobbyist photographer, and always play with the DNR knobs just to see what they do, whether I ended up using it or not. I was always struck by how desaturated and muted chroma...
It actually could be a side effect of the noise reduction. I've noticed it when using the exact plugin RAH mentioned. When setting the number of frames to analyze for "temporal" noise reduction, too high of a number can cause that effect.
Great plugin, I've used it for digital video and it works wonders. But obviously for film it belongs far far away. To be perfectly honest, I'm surprised to learn the film industry is using neatvideo. When I think of it, wedding videographers come to mind, not multimillion dollar productions.
I...
Is this in reference to, at least in part, to the complete removal of the chroma grain? I've made a stink about it elsewhere, but it's fallen mostly on deaf ears. I've noticed it becoming more and more of a trend since 4K BD hit the market, and to say it upsets me is a bit of an understatement.