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No worries. Yours was a very good question. I ought to have specified non-DV displays. That includes all projectors, and I believe all Samsung displays. Samsung is a huge market share, so many ATVs are doing this conversion..

These are not questions of belief. The resolution of the stream is easily verified in the developer window. With the ATV set to 4K/SDR, match range off, the ATV is not streaming a 1080p signal. (except perhaps with rare titles. Worth stated he has only seen a different looking stream one time)...

Because your LG is DV capable is it not? I wrote that the ATV converts for HDR10 displays, meaning non DV capable displays.

BTW the ATV would certainly be capable of doing this. For all HDR10 displays, the ATV is already converting the DV signal it receives to HDR10.

I have never seen or heard of that happening before. This is on iTunes? Has that happened to you with other titles? I‘ve compared quite a few titles and have never seen this - even when I would prefer the older version (To Catch a Thief)

True, but that does not mean the same thing occurs when viewing on a 4K display. The resolution and bit rate being streamed can be confirmed in the developer window. At least with iTunes and Netflix, these will be different between 4K/SDR and 1080p. I'm wondering if Worth has confirmed there are...

I don't believe this is correct (at least as far as iTunes and Netflix). This can be checked in the developer window when playing content. Have you confirmed this in the developer window?

Very interesting questions. With 4K/HDR discs, there is a simple straightforward way to yield excellent SDR results - Panasonic 420, 820, or 9000. In this instance, we are talking about a stream. The simple straightforward way to yield SDR is Apple TV set to 4K/SDR, Match Range off. These...

I haven't noticed Robert to be anti-streaming. I think he evaluates each release (in whatever form) on it's own merits. In this case, what is understandable, is that after all the hard work he did on the current master and Blu-ray, to have some of that work obscured by the grading of this 4K...

Thank you Robert. Agree wholeheartedly, hence my preference for the Blu Ray. Similar problems seem to be creeping in to more 4K versions due to the addition of HDR. I’m delighted to read you addressing this issue in detail.

Not certain what you mean. It's certainly easy enough to do. I've found that good 4K transfers (with or without HDR) usually outshine their respective (same master, up-rezzed) Blu-ray counterparts in terms of detail and grain. Occasionally some 4K streams disappoint, usually do to a...

I did some comparisons viewing in projection with the current Blu-ray versus the 4K stream over ATV, in both 4K HDR and SDR. I could not see any increase in detail with the 4K. all three versions look great, with the only differences I could find being in the grading. My preference regarding...

That is the point in this instance - to defeat HDR. From the ongoing discussion above:

"Enable Dolby Vision' is irrelevant when "Match Dynamic Range" is off. If you want to disable DV and HDR, Match Range must be off. No need to change both settings. To revert back to high dynamic range, one can just reset the Match Range. I suspect that in this case of crushed blacks, the cause...

In agreement with those settings, but to determine if removing DV/HDR resolves the crushed blacks in this stream, Match Dynamic Range needs to be set to off. Chris

Disappointing but not surprising. Robert, I don't know if you have an Apple TV, but if so, it can be set to 4KSDR, possibly eliminating the crushed blacks. I'm sure we're all very interested in any other observations you have regarding this 4K compared to the Blu. Thanks as always