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Yes, I agree and when you say organic I think of that idea again that those filmmakers from 1941 to 1958 were not creating these pictures to ape a style but rather to essentially tap into the anxiety of the time. Something about the filmmakers of the 1970s was they were often making movies that...

Yes, in terms of using the term "noir" I am in Robert's camp of having a very open view. In terms of that period that Eddie is talking about I certainly recognize that's the period where that style was born and then it was given a name after the fact. I just sort of find people are much more...

I think of Heat as Noir and my reasons are the dialogue number one I think is very "noir" and the two main characters played by Pacino and De Niro are very "noir" characters that have a very "noir" relationship.

I would not let it stop you from seeing it. If seeing these very large naked women disturbs you you can fast forward through that as it has nothing to do with the rest of the film...unless it is meant to set a tone for all women in the film. The film is interesting and well worth seeing. I will...

I did not notice them in that part of the film but she inserts things from her life into the way she imagines things in the novel. So if the naked women from the opening of the film are in the Texas set "novel" part of the film that is why. Another good example of this is when Edward and Susan...

Yes, I have read and seen Tom Ford talk about that opening scene and...well...I buy what he says it is supposed to represent in terms of Susan and why she created it. I don't really buy what he says about it personally. I can say I am with you, Robert, in that I did not really enjoy watching it...