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  1. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    LOL...hey if I told you it was designed poorly and could document it, would you still buy it?
  2. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    Don't see why one wouldn't be sent to Australia..a small payment for your country's support and all. Now if you just didn't happen to have all those poisonous snakes! It's a tough nut to crack Craig. Let me know if you want the link on a test CD to evaluate error recovery. BTW Lee, since...
  3. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    yes, a lot happened, and he was well aware of the Dolby paper which was well past 1992. However his work and posting dropped off significantly due to illness. well I think it's a good idea what you're doing Lee as it'll have some bearing on the recording aspect of things. i'll stick my hand out...
  4. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    It's actually a sucky proposition Mr. Price and my tendencies would be towards looking for a competently made product with low jitter rather than adding onto an older product. Will it improve your existing product? Maybe but truly how to tell seeing as audio memory regarding small differences is...
  5. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    Lee, both of the papers which were cited here and elsewhere were concerned about jitter from the playback perspective on a listener's system, not at the recording studio. I'd read elsewhere on HTF where you conducted a listening session but ran only one trial. Now honestly, how does one draw any...
  6. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    have to part ways with you regarding test tones as those are more sensitive to anomalies than music and while science's understanding can always be said to be incomplete, the science of psychoacoustics is surprisingly well understood and like all the sciences, an area of active research. maybe...
  7. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    Craig, I'm not stating that jitter is inaudible under any circumstances, simply that if we consider Dunn's J-Test, which I believe is how the aforementioned papers did it, that there is a point where it becomes a boogyman. As manufacturers embrace this, and I hope they do, and the results are...
  8. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    and you'd be relying upon what to make the assessment? acoustic memory?
  9. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    Dunn was well aware of the differences between beliefs and controlled testing. There is though the difference between test tones and actual musical material listened to in an environment where the noise floor is substantially higher. This always makes differences harder to discern. Again, if I...
  10. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    about 50 using the Toyota Hybrid...don't vary too much. look, i can appreciate, from a technical point of view, companies such as Meridian, that strive to minimize distortions, improve upon things such as rotational stability, look to maintain signal integrity, in a sense apply a bit of...
  11. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    Really depends how you're doing the tests Mike. Vibration of the transport mechanism isn't jitter and it'd have to be severe enough that the system couldn't read the data correctly. That much is implied in Dunn's findings that you're in good shape so long as the data can be read. As far as...
  12. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    I'm quite sure that an application of one of these venerable and proven reptilian elixers will cure yer jitter seriously though Lee, if there are truly audible differences, I think we need to focus our attention on something else.
  13. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    Oh, and Dunn also wrote that cables have an imperceptible effect upon jitter. Ever see Floyd do 'The Wall'?
  14. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    yeah yeah far as I know Floyd doesn't have any 120 dB licks @20K and besides I saw them several times, far too few I'm afraid, and saw them do what was to become Dark Side of the Moon about a year before the album came out. Good stuff You're not understanding or misinterpreting the essence...
  15. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    Awww, now I've got to go and retract my he's a nice guy I mean, here I try to overlook that you constantly raise Georgie and AQ 'white papers' to the level of competent research. When little kids come to you and talk about their imaginary friends and discoveries, one smiles and says that's...
  16. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    Lee's a good guy and after all, what's audio to many people but sometimes picking a position and then agonizing over it? However the science would advance if the high-end mongers would apply science. Time to put my CD player on chicken bones now and listen to some reggae
  17. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    Well Craig, the research that I'm aware of doesn't support the audibility below 10 ns...oops I'd posted 2 ns above. Consider the following. In AES Preprint Number 4826: "Theoretical and Audible Effects of Jitter on Digital Audio Quality" by Eric Benjamin and Benjamin Gannon, they found that...
  18. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    once you get below 2 nanoseconds it's inaudible and companies are routinely achieving 200 picoseconds...the usual 10x less thing. ya got's to listen real real hard to pick up 2ns and that's with test tones.
  19. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    no doubt it's a work of art Chris. looks very cool!
  20. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    If I come across something that's quality and not fluff I'll pass it along.
  21. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    then that is another matter entirely Brett, you desire for something that's visually attractive and possibly not mainstream. I take it then that the Marantz 600 series, certain Sony's, Meridian's, Arcam's would not have the necessary visual appeal? things that are built like tanks don't...
  22. Chu Gai

    Will a good external DAC make an Average Transport sound fantastic?

    Getting a CD player, or for that matter a DVD player, with inaudible levels of jitter for under $500, maybe even substantially less, is not a big thing Brett. Keep in mind that a top shelf BB DAC is only about $5....Wow! However if you're interested, I'll send you a link where you can buy a...
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