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  1. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    This goes to show that every manufacturer had their own dvd player/drive design, which differs slightly from one another. The original dvd design, doesn't appear to have a definitive spec for how to exactly read a dvd disc.
  2. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Me ! ! ! I keep such old defective discs around, largely to use as "torture tests" on computer dvd-drives. :)
  3. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    (On another offtopic aside). Promises are not legally binding, if there is no official agreement signed. :popcorn:
  4. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    (On an offtopic aside). Some individuals are habitual complainers, where they legitimately enjoy it to the max and is entirely a part of of their personal identity. :) For me, such behavior is a guilty pleasure on my part whenever I choose to indulge in it. :rock:
  5. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    If one doesn't like how things are handled by Warner, one can simply just walk away and NEVER buy anything else again made by Warner. If one wants to hire an ambulance chaser for dealing with defective Warner dvd/bluray discs, at most the settlement will be just be getting a refund and signing...
  6. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    If I had to guess, this Wea/Cinram disc manufacturing plant in Commerce, California was probably shut down during the great recession of the late 2000s.
  7. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    IFPI 2V** appears to be an old WEA/Cinram plant in Commerce, California. Not much information online about this cd/dvd disc manufacturing plant. It appears to have disappeared sometime in the mid-late 2000s. For example on discogs, not many listings show up after 2005-6...
  8. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Cinram probably bought them up more than a decade ago. Also a lot of cd/dvd disc manufacturing plants closed down back during the great recession of 2008->2010.
  9. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    The former Cinram had three plants in north america I'm aware of that manufactured a lot of dvds/blurays. IFPI mould code 2U** = Olyphant Pennsylvania IFPI mould code 60** = Toronto Canada IFPI mould code 2F** = Huntsville Alabama IIRC, the Hunstville plant might still be open which is now...
  10. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    One can also ask whether some of these playback problems, might be due to a player flaking out as it gets older. Less common but more insidious, I've come across a few bluray players which are really flaky at playing dvd and cd discs. But they play bluray discs fine. (ie. The dvd and cd...
  11. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    IIRC, Technicolor had two disc manufacturing facilities in Mexico. One had IFPI code KK** while the other one had IFPI code KM**. (The latter might have been previously owned by a company named CMCA Deluxe). At its worse, the Universal double-sided flipper discs fiasco from the mid-2000s...
  12. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    It seems like the problematic stuff happened after AOL-TimeWarner sold all their cd/dvd manufacturing facilities to Cinram in October 2003. http://www.hughsnews.ca/time-warner-sells-dvdcd-manufacturing-and-distribution-businesses-to-cinram-0055483 I don't know how many of the problematic...
  13. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    More generally, lets hope that Technicolor didn't carry on Cinram's bad habits at the mexico plant.
  14. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Last night I was doing some shopping at the nearby Wallyworld. I looked through some recent eOne dvd/bluray releases on the shelves (such as "Early Man" released last week). Lo and behold, on the back cover it has the distinct "made in mexico" printed on the plastic wrap, which is highly...
  15. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    So over the five years time period of 2013 -> early-2018, I have absolutely no idea who was actually still manufacturing anything at Cinram/Technicolor's Olyphant, PA plant. If one really wants to know, most likely it will involve looking at the ifpi codes on cd, dvd, or bluray discs released...
  16. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Good question. Currently it is unknown who was the highest bidder for all that disc manufacturing specific equipment. Lets hope it is the original company which made this equipment, buying their own stuff back to take it off the market. If not, then lets hope all that disc specific equipment...
  17. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Ironically, the Sony Terre Haute, Indiana plant also recently closed their dvd/bluray disc manufacturing lines. SonyDADC's current disc manufacturing clients were shunted off to Technicolor's facilities (such as the giant Mexico plant where Warner, Disney, Paramount, and Universal currently...
  18. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Offhand the only activity I could find from the Olyphant, PA plant (IFPI 2U**) after Warner dumped Cinram altogether (in mid-2010), was manufacturing bluray discs for the canadian movie company Alliance FIlms over 2010->2012. Alliance was sold to eOne in January 2013, where eOne's dvd/bluray...
  19. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Indeed. All the remaining equipment was recently auctioned off from that Olyphant, PA disc manufacturing facility. http://www.myronbowling.com/Auctions/Technicolor-979C73.html http://www.myronbowling.com/_filelib/FileCabinet/2018_PHOTO_GALLERIES/Leading_CD-DVD_Website_Copy.pdf...
  20. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Cinram also had a plant in Huntsville, Alabama with IFPI code 2F** For a long time, Lionsgate and Fox manufactured their dvd/bluray discs at this Huntsville plant. As far as I can tell, this plant is now owned by Technicolor and is still manufacturing Lionsgate's dvd/bluray discs. (Dunno...
  21. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    I recall one Fox multidisc set where some of the discs were made in Toronto, while the other discs were made in one of Cinram's american plants. All in the same factory sealed package. (IIRC, it was first volume of Time Tunnel).
  22. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    https://www.thestar.com/business/2014/07/25/cinram_moves_production_out_of_toronto.html Fox used Cinram's Toronto plant for many years, until it was finally closed down in 2014. Such Fox dvd discs will have "canada" written on the inner circle of the disc, and have ifpi code 60** (where ** are...
  23. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    (On a huge tangent). One big reason I haven't purchased any 4Kbluray discs (yet), is that Sonopress is purportedly a big player in 4Kbluray. Warner and Universal are known to have contracted their 4Kbluray disc manufacturing to Sonopress.
  24. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    in my experience out of the big cd/dvd/bluray disc manufacturers over the past 15+ years, Cinram had the worst quality control. After Cinram went into freefall (after Warner didn't renew their contract with Cinram) and eventually died, the worst large optical disc manufacturer is now Sonopress.
  25. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    Before mid-2010, Warner's american released dvds were primarily manufactured at Cinram's optical disc plants in Toronto, Ontario (ifpi code 60**) and Olyphant, Pennsylvania (ifpi 2U**). After mid-2010, Warner's american released dvds and blurays were manufactured at Technicolor's mexico plant...
  26. jcroy

    Warner DVD's not working thread - watch to make sure they still play

    IIRC, Warner manufactured their dvd discs at Cinram's plant in Olyphant, Pennsylvania until 2010. But in 2010, Warner changed to Thomson/Technicolor's Mexico plant. The Olyphant, Pennsylvania Cinram plant had IFPI facility codes 2U** and (I think) also 2F** The Thomson/Technicolor plant in...