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Kevin- Ya but the Thiel sub is really fast, tight and musical :D

Steve sent his pc ultra back? Why, PB2 Ultra in black for 1799? :D

If 1 DB12 = 110db @ "x" 2 DB12 = 116db @ "x" 8 DB12 = 128db @ "x" 1 TV12 = 112db @ "x" 2 TV12 = 118db @ "x" 8 TV12 = 130db @ "x" -------------------------- 2db regardless of how many

I hate SVS. Just kidding. So compared to the PB2+ what are the main differences? Personally, if I was spending this much I'd want dual CS/PC-Ultras so I could place them in 2 different spots (like front/back in the Harman .pdf).